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[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children)

You sound like a real military expert there with great insight into Russian military strategy. The obvious alternative explanation is that Russia destroyed objectives like the supply depos early on, and now they're mopping up the forces they surrounded in Donbass that can't get resupplies. Which is what actually happening right now.

On the one had, you say the world will collapse without Russia, but on the other you say Russia will not collapse without the world.

This is western egoism at its finest. The west is not the world bud, and the sooner westerns learn to internalize this fact the sooner the world can move on. The evidence is that the world continues to trade with Russia, and the two biggest countries in the world are backing Russia both politically and economically.

It’s the 3rd week of the invasion and you’re waiting to see evidence of the invasion stalling? Ha ha!

LMFAO when US invaded Iraq with ten times the troops, which is half the size of Ukraine and completely isolated, it took them a month to get to Baghdad. US also had no problems with bombing civilians and levelling cities in Iraq. That seems like a good base line to measure against.

The plan was to take Kyiv within days.

Wow, you know Russian military plans, you must be well connected indeed! Seems like the evidence points to the fact that the actual plan was to draw Ukrainian military into cauldrons in the east where they ended up surrounded. Once the military breaks then Ukraine will have no choice but to negotiate a surrender with Russia. I'm not sure where you got the notion that the cities are what's relevant here.

Your BS about bombing civilians is straight up lies. Putin has been targeting civilians with bombs since he took power (Russians that time). Go find a Ukrainian maternity ward to hide in, if you trust him so much.

Ok there ghost of Kiev.

edit: here's what an actual US colonel thinks about the situation, but I'm sure you know better https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Iw0m-Pc08Q

[–] Julianus@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Looting grocery stores because your expired rations ran out does not speak to an effective supply chain.

You are the one that sees reality as "The West" and the rest. It's an interconnected global economy, which makes your claims of Russia being able to be cut off from the society of nations hilarious. Even the US would struggle with that, today.

The US had air superiority in the first day or two of that war. So if it took a month to mop up the ground after that, what does this imply in the current context? Russia's aging and ill-supplied military is going to progress even slower against more modern weapons and better intelligence. While having their economy ground down, something the US didn't have to deal with then. When you paint it like that, this is looking like Putin's Waterloo.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Looting grocery stores because your expired rations ran out does not speak to an effective supply chain.

Making stuff up is not a convncing form of argument.

It’s an interconnected global economy, which makes your claims of Russia being able to be cut off from the society of nations hilarious. Even the US would struggle with that, today.

Can you explain what Russia has actually been cut off from again?

The US had air superiority in the first day or two of that war.

Russia had air superiority in the first day of the war. Why do you think Ukraine keeps asking NATO for a no fly zone again?

Russia’s aging and ill-supplied military is going to progress even slower against more modern weapons and better intelligence.

You understand that Russia is one of the top military manufacturers in the world that sells weapons across the globe yes? Given that, how do you come to the insane conclusion that Russia is running out of supplies for its own military?

While having their economy ground down, something the US didn’t have to deal with then.

Yeah they did ignoramus https://watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/costs/economic/economy

When you paint it like that, this is looking like Putin’s Waterloo.

When you're completely divorced from reality then sure.

[–] Julianus@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Russia supplies the world with a flood of simple to maintain rifles, sure. Older Soviet gear is always on sale, too, just like anything that wasn't nailed down from that era. But night vision gear on Russian tanks is French. Russia just isn't the high tech wonderland you imagine. You're being thick headed insisting that any single country is self-sufficient.

Also, you what happened to the great Soviet stockpiles of nuclear weapons? They were sold to the American nuclear energy industry to power homes and televisions. The ultimate triumph of capitalism.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I love how I literally linked you an article showing what Russia actually supplies, and you continue to spread misinformation in the reply. It's just phenomenal to see to be honest.

I also love how you imagine that Russia isn't able to continue innovating and manufacturing things after USSR. All the same scientists, engineers, workers, and factories are still there, but somehow magically they stopped being able to make new things.

Russia just isn’t the high tech wonderland you imagine.

Why don't we take a look at what people who actually know what they're talking about have to say about this https://www.chathamhouse.org/2021/09/advanced-military-technology-russia

You’re being thick headed insisting that any single country is self-sufficient.

Russia produces all of its necessities domestically, that's a fact. Meanwhile, anything it can't produce it gets from China https://www.express.co.uk/news/science/1569862/putin-xi-russia-china-partners-sanctions-ukraine-gas-usa

Also, you what happened to the great Soviet stockpiles of nuclear weapons? They were sold to the American nuclear energy industry to power homes and televisions. The ultimate triumph of capitalism.

Russia has over 6,000 nukes, but whatever you say.

[–] Julianus@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Seeing dilapidated the state of it's air force, navy, and military the claim of 6000 working nukes is absolutely preposterous. I cry bullshit.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago

When we substitute seeing for imagining and your comment starts to make sense.

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