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[–] wrinkletip@feddit.nl 20 points 1 year ago (11 children)

As much as I agree, these are different things. EVs are fixing greenhouse gases. While the others are also bad things, they aren't really global climate changers.

[–] Mars@beehaw.org -1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Are they? Because unless you live in some green energy paradise, most EV are charged using coal plants.

[–] CurtAdams@urbanists.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@Mars @wrinkletip Hello, what century are you living in? The US gets only 20% of its electricity from coal and dropping fast. In CA it's 0%.

Aside from that, EVs are so much more energy efficient that an EV using electricity from a coal plant still produces less CO2 than an ICE car.

[–] The_Sasswagon@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

Not op, but the material gathering and building of EVs is far more energy intensive and resource intensive than gas cars. They do even out but it takes a number of years on the road depending on the vehicle.

Additionally they are very heavy which requires more infrastructure maintenance and therefore more emissions.

That is to say EVs are not a sure fire improvement and it depends on the car, the place you are, the supply chain producing your car, where it's going to end up, and your own driving habits.

Or we could just invest in rail instead of doubling down on private vehicles. Then we can be sure.

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