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[–] Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 year ago (4 children)

There are native people to the land who are Jewish. That does not mean that all Jews globally are native to Palestine or that only Jews are native to the land.

There are still some Celts in continental Europe (mostly in Brittany). So thus the Irish, Scottish, Cornish, Welsh, Manx, and such are all totally justified in settling and displacing everywhere their ancestors have ever lived, right?

So if you could imagine the British not allowing celts in England. Don't you know? The Celts settled the British Isles and Ireland and displaced the people living there in the iron age

[–] Dontcare@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Jews originated in Israel, this is a fact. Jews have always been willing to live with arabs in Israel. It is the arbasnwho have launched war against any Jews in the land, the land to which they are native.

It would be like all the non Irish groups in Ireland saying that the Irish can't live their etc...

[–] Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

And the ancient Israelites descended from people who came from outside of Israel. You cannot simply ethnically cleanse land of people whose families have lived there for many generations just because your ancestors also lived there long ago. I do not believe Jews should be excluded from Palestine either, just as Palestinians and other Arabs tend to believe. But the modern state of Israel is a settler colonial project that does indeed push out others with rightful claim to the land. The only reasonable solution, at least if we are accepting the framework of modern states, would be for Israel as it exists today to be dissolved, and the whole land formerly known ubiquitously as Palestine to become a secular democracy without prescription for religious and ethnic supremacy and exclusion, with the right to return for displaced Palestinians. This also respects the rights of many Israelis who, at this point, are multigenerational, and many of whom know no other home but Israel.

I should also point out that your portrayal of Arabs as a war-making monolith is extremely reductive and racist. Just as is your conflation of Jews and Israel.

[–] Dontcare@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Again, the Jews have always been willing to live with arabs, it is the arabs who have always explicitly said no Jews

It is explicit in the quaran to violently conquered the world for Islam and you see there barbarism in many places

[–] Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago

You are completely unserious and dishonest, just wanting to peddle your racist bullshit. so I'm done talking to you