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[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

It’s ridiculous to think that it’s not Muslims who instigated the attacks… Do you think small numbers of Jews immigrated and immediately attacked Muslims ?

Read up on the Stern Gang, please, on Kahanites, and so on. Even forget about Arabs for a second: The current Israeli minister of national security once called for the assassination of Rabin. Is that or is that not an example of something being quite not right within Israeli civil society. How can such a person, possibly, have a public office. People are getting arrested for "aiding the enemy" for speculating publicly about how a Gaza invasion could go down, without any access to or leak of secret information -- merely educated guesses. Go down further that road and pudding prices will be the least of your problems. The Nazis didn't come for the Jews first, Jews were like at least fifth in line, it's going to be the same in Israel: First the Smolanin, then the socdems, then the liberals. And then the Arabs.

Or you can stick your head in the sand and kvetch while fascists are taking over the country.

[–] Dontcare@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Read up the kahanites? A fringe group which was outlawed... Read up on hamas, the government of gaza. You sound like a lunatic, the Nazis didn't prioritize coming for the Jews ? You must be 12

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

A fringe group which was outlawed…

If you claim that Otzma Jehudit (remember: Part of the governing coalition) isn't Kahanite then you're either utterly naive or one of them and trying to gaslight. Also: Did Ben-Gvir call for Rabin's assassination? Yes or no? Why is the man allowed to be in power, curious that you ignored that one.

Read up on hamas, the government of gaza.

A dictatorship which came to power before 50% of current Gazans were even born, much less could vote. Netanyahu and his Kahanites were last voted into power in 2022. Try again.

You sound like a lunatic, the Nazis didn’t prioritize coming for the Jews ? You must be 12

The Nazis started killing Communists in 1933. While persecution of Jews started also in 1933, there was ample time to flee, and many did -- Communists, trade unionists etc. weren't given that chance. Historians differ a bit on the actual start of the Shoah, but the start of the war with the attack on Poland (1939) is a popular date to put it at.

Of course Nazis first prosecuted political opponents, groups which could actually stop them, before implementing their further goals. Nazis are idiots but they aren't stupid.

Also, Niemöller.

[–] Dontcare@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Kahane is illegal in Israel, no Ben gvir did not threaten to kill rabin 30 years ago when he was w teenager. I ignored it because it is ridiculous.

All Muslim states are dictatorships , pals support Hamas, maybe they are brainwashed but then everyone should be calling for the removal of Hamas right?

The Nazis did not allow Jews to flee, everyone knows this, the things you say are childish.

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Kahane is illegal in Israel

The original party, yes. Somehow, much unlike Germany, Israel doesn't automatically outlaw successor organisations. Also if you want to call Otzma Yehudit something else they're still vile fascists so same shit, different coat of paint.

no Ben gvir did not threaten to kill rabin 30 years ago when he was w teenager.

Quoth him, 1995: "We got to his car, and we'll get to him too." Look it up. Also, as you mention it: What he did as a teenager. Hint: Being a Kahanite.

All Muslim states are dictatorships

False. I think Malaysia ranks highest among majority-Muslim countries, between Lithuania and Slovakia, both EU members.

pals support Hamas, maybe they are brainwashed but then everyone should be calling for the removal of Hamas right?

Maybe have an actual look at actual data.

The Nazis did not allow Jews to flee, everyone knows this, the things you say are childish.

No, they are educated about history, and the world. Something you do not seem to be. Persecution ramped up slowly, emigration only turned into mass flight in 1938, that long people stayed in the country even though they had lost pretty much all civil rights in 1935.