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Actor Steve Coogan and presenter Carol Vorderman have backed Liberal Democrat pledges to reform how the UK's general elections are run.

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[–] simon_lucy@mastodon.social 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (12 children)

@PamCrossland @theinspectorst @i_am_not_a_robot @Syldon @jonne

It can't be proportional and the existing level of constitutional representation without going to over 2000 MPs. PR in a Parliamentary system wrecks one person one vote for one candidate in a constituency.

Be careful what you wish for.

[–] theinspectorst@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

STV has one person one vote, in a constituency, with the added benefit of allowing voters to express their vote in a preferential ranking and delivering a proportional outcome. That is what I wish for.

[–] simon_lucy@mastodon.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@theinspectorst @i_am_not_a_robot @Syldon @jonne @PamCrossland

Well not if there are multiple outcomes.
In the London Mayoral elections sufficient put their first choice as Lord Bucket and their second the future mayor. This was after a specific campaign to save Lord Bucket's deposit and 'defeat' the right wing candidate.

That's perfectly fine, but two outcomes so not a single vote.

[–] PamCrossland@mastodon.world 1 points 1 year ago

@simon_lucy @theinspectorst @i_am_not_a_robot @Syldon @jonne It's called transferable for a reason. You get one vote, but if your candidate gets knocked out, it's transfered until their next choice candidate until one candidate has 50%+1 . The transferable vote allows you to choose your preferences so we don't continue with the ridiculous situation where somebody can get elected with only 20-30% of the vote, as happens in some places.

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