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[–] tintory@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I seen this style on a few other sites, and where did you see those dog whistles becuase from the text it talks about how people can't afford kids and thats a problem?

[–] DiatomeceousGirth@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm going to use "=" as a shorthand that means what the statements are dog whistling. These are statements from their about page

Declining fertility rates more prominently among the affluent = the poor shouldn't be reproducing, and we should encourage only rich babies (this one sounds alot like those silicon valley pronatalists). Also "affluent" is usually code for white.

Forced migration and places being "unable to take care of their own" = anti-immigrant, isolationism.

Demographic changes = tied closely to the last one, but typically also related to domestic racism and almost always bigoted against nonwhite people. Never seen someone worry about demographic changes without a racial element.

NIMBY regulations = deregulate housing market and allow developers to build whatever. Given all the other things and the fact they don't mention affordability makes me think they just want to make developers rich.

The interesting thing here is they mention austerity and privatization a couple times. These are typically left wing critiques. So honestly it's pretty confused. It's possible it's left wing trying to propagandize to the right. Could be vise versa. Seeing population decline (especially since it's mostly majority white nations that have declining populations) as a bad thing gives me fascist impressions.

[–] tintory@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think you are reaching

They also talk about "increasing social spending, improving social systems, or promoting better and more flexible work conditions can start the process of reversing this trend." That doesn't really sound anti poor, along with the fact the site published multiple articles praising democrats, and attacked Tories (https://www.stoppopulationdecline.org/tories-and-local-government-refuse/), GOP (https://www.stoppopulationdecline.org/republicans-shut-down-gov-evers-special-session/), and Elon Musk (https://www.stoppopulationdecline.org/silicon-valley-pronatalists-against-wfh/)

Forced Migration can also mean, being forced to leave California because you can't afford rent

Demographic changes can refer to the fact we are dying younger and younger

"Deregulate housing market and allow developers to build whatever. Given all the other things and the fact they don’t mention affordability makes me think they just want to make developers rich." Except they published an article attacking Sunak for trying to deregulate with a title called "Sunak's Ploy Pretending to be Pro-House Affordability fails" (https://www.stoppopulationdecline.org/sunaks-ploy-house-affordability-fails/) and does talk about in their articles https://www.stoppopulationdecline.org/tories-and-local-government-refuse/

[–] DiatomeceousGirth@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Damn, okay. I take it back. I guess I'm just so used to seeing fascists use terms like population decline, etc. that I'm pretty jaded. I don't personally agree with the proposition that we should prevent population decline, but respect where they're coming from otherwise. Thanks for the links