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[–] pigginz@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (18 children)

Overall, Kusti Salm, a senior Estonian defense ministry official, estimated that Russia’s current ammunition production is seven times greater than that of the West.

Russia’s production costs are also far lower than the West’s, in part because Moscow is sacrificing safety and quality in its effort to build weapons more cheaply, Mr. Salm said. For instance, it costs a Western country $5,000 to $6,000 to make a 155-millimeter artillery round, whereas it costs Russia about $600 to produce a comparable 152-millimeter artillery shell, he said.

A US-based media article is claiming that Russia can produce seven times the ammunition at something like one tenth the per-unit cost. That's insane if true. I knew Russia was putting up big production numbers, but that big? If that's even close to correct then the idea that the AFU could ever push Russia out by force is utterly delusional now.

[–] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 1 year ago (3 children)

"Safety and quality"

ah yes, when I think of western weapons manufacturing, I think of these two things. That's why they can't compare, because Moscow is cheating at weapons production.

Complete bullshit, always framing obvious failures of the system as "moral victories" it's disgusting.

[–] sicaniv@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Can't acknowledge their over profiteering (loot) from war so, it's cheaper in Russia coz of ignoring safety standards bullshit.

US is fucked, more because it's been completely sold to it's ruling class that will let it bleed to death out of greed and for profit if it is ever in a war with Chinese or Russian state.

So first of all American liberals must try to wage and win a war with their real daddies (ruling class) first, before they should even think of going for the one with Russians or Chinese.

Probably that's why they choose proxy wars now. Because historically they have lost each and every single direct war that their daddies waged and now they are setting the precedent in proxy ones too.

[–] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 1 year ago

The quality part is what gets me. The west's weapons have demonstrably been shown to be worse quality than Russian ones at this point. They're just living in this fantasy where every sign that they are failing is actually proof that they are winning somehow.

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