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As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] blivet@artemis.camp 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

It’s ridiculously inappropriate for climate protesters to attack museums and artworks. They should be going after car dealerships, gas stations, and the like, not creative works that have no direct impact on the environment.

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Here's the thing: people tried those. A lot. It had essentially no impact and got little to no press coverage.

[–] blivet@artemis.camp 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thr valve turners who shut off pipelines in the US. Several cases of people halting coal trains in the US and Austria. Refinery blockades in the UK. Paint-based stoppages of private jets. These things are happening routinely but nobody heard about them

[–] blivet@artemis.camp 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I only see three Valve Turner incidents listed in Wikipedia, the most recent of which was four years ago.

Anyway, my suggestions weren’t pipelines or trains out in the middle of nowhere. If they want publicity they should glue themselves to the entrance to a car dealership.

People who support museums tend to be relatively progressive, so all the protesters are accomplishing is to alienate people who likely agree with them.

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