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[–] stu@lemmy.pit.ninja 54 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (26 children)

I would highly recommend the recent Freakonomics Radio series about whaling. It's Episodes 549-551 and the bonus episode from 2023-08-06. If you're firmly against killing any living creature (or at least sentient creatures), I highly doubt it will change your mind (and I don't think that it should or that it tries to), but I also think it is really fascinating learning about the history of the whaling industry and hearing the perspective of a modern whaler in the bonus episode. Putting aside the obvious ethical issues with killing sentient creatures, it's interesting to consider things like whether there's a sustainable level of whaling, what a sustainable quota would look like, and how much we're in competition with certain whale species for harvesting fish as food for our own species. I personally appreciated how unbiased Freakonomics tried to be in their discussion of the topic.

[–] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml -4 points 1 year ago (13 children)

Whaling is no different then fishing as far as sustainability goes and ethically a whale is no different then a cow. If you have no problem with killing cows, you should have no problem killing whales, assuming it is done sustainably.

[–] LemmyAtem@beehaw.org 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It takes a lot less time to grow a new cow than it does to grow a new whale.

[–] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sure and that is taken into account with the sustainability. While you can harvest something like a billion cows a year plus cows are domesticated the same concept applies to whale but it may be only a few thousand a year.

[–] LemmyAtem@beehaw.org 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah yes "sustainability". Whaling is such a sustainable industry that basically every civilized nation has banned it. That's okay though, we've proven that we're really good at farming and fishing sustainably, so I'm sure we'll be just as good at whaling. We definitely aren't fishing the oceans to extinction, or releasing millions of tons of methane from factory cattle farming.

Oh wait...

[–] yetAnotherUser@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago

Whaling is such a sustainable industry that basically every civilized nation has banned it.

Since when exactly are unsustainable industries banned?

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