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Republican men seem massively troubled about their masculinity — and that's literally causing death and suffering

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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.one 16 points 1 year ago (24 children)

Seems to be a big deal when you start talking guns and mental health, but with all the fixations on "mass shootings", they lose this little stat:

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/04/26/what-the-data-says-about-gun-deaths-in-the-u-s/

"In 2021, the most recent year for which complete data is available, 48,830 people died from gun-related injuries in the U.S., according to the CDC. That figure includes gun murders and gun suicides, along with three less common types of gun-related deaths tracked by the CDC: those that were accidental, those that involved law enforcement and those whose circumstances could not be determined."

54% of those deaths were suicides. 26,368.

(43% murder, 3% "other", accidents, etc.)

Also in 2021, 38,358 men committed suicide compared to 9,825 women.

https://www.cdc.gov/suicide/suicide-data-statistics.html

3.9:1, if almost 4x more women than men were dying for any reason, it would be a national crisis. "Something would have to be done!"

Mental health for men? Silence.

[–] keef@programming.dev 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I hear what you are saying but I wouldn’t even say that line about if it were women it’d be a national crisis. Time has shown again and again that society will gladly throw away a group of people without needing to devalue your words with a statement like that.

Anyway there’s a lot of things to discuss around this.

We can dive into the societal role of men with being encouraged to bottle up because “grown men don’t cry” and toxic masculinity.

We can talk about rates of gun ownership between genders that is a big factor in suicide risk.

We can unpack the issue with people not having the money for mental health resources. Which can be solved through general wage increases or through the state.

The point is to say that instead of using a crisis to step another group of people we should be approaching these things from a point of intersectionality.

Edit: Just to be on topic I am completely for restrictions on guns as a easier means to dealing with shootings.

The crazy people shouting “dont take my guns” while also touting the line of “it’s a mental health isssue” without being open to addressing the that problem gets me so worked up.

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