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Police in England installed an AI camera system along a major road. It caught almost 300 drivers in its first 3 days.::An AI camera system installed along a major road in England caught 300 offenses in its first 3 days.There were 180 seat belt offenses and 117 mobile phone

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[–] tmRgwnM9b87eJUPq@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (13 children)

The system we use in NL is called “monocam”. A few years ago it caught 95% of all offenders.

This means that AI had at most 5% false negatives.

I wonder if they have improved the system in the mean time.

https://nos.nl/artikel/2481555-nieuwe-slimme-camera-s-aangeschaft-om-appende-bestuurders-te-betrappen

[–] Tywele@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 year ago (7 children)

How do they know that they caught 95% of all offenders if they didn't catch the remaining 5%? Wouldn't that be unknowable?

[–] Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

The article didn’t really clarify that part, so it’s impossible to tell. My guess is, they tested the system by intentionally driving under it with a phone in your hand a 100 times. If the camera caught 95 of those, that’s how you would get the 95% catch rate. That setup has the a priori information on about the true state of the driver, but testing takes a while.

However, that’s not the only way to test a system like this. They could have tested it with normal drivers instead. To borrow a medical term, you could say that this is an “in vivo” test. If they did that, there was no a priori information about the true state of each driver. They could still report a different 95% value though. What if 95% of the positives were human verified to be true positives and the remaining 5% were false positives. In a setup like that we have no information about true or false negatives, so this kind of test setup has some limitations. I guess you could count the number of cars labeled negative, but we just can’t know how many of them were true negatives unless you get a bunch of humans to review an inordinate amount of footage. Even then you still wouldn’t know for sure, because humans make mistakes too.

In practical terms, it would still be a really good test, because you can easily have thousands of people drive under the camera within a very short period of time. You don’t know anything about the negatives, but do you really need to. This isn’t a diagnostic test where you need to calculate sensitivity, specificity, positive predictive value and negative predictive value. I mean, it would be really nice if you did, but do you really have to?

[–] tmRgwnM9b87eJUPq@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Just to clarify the result: the article states that AI and human review leads to 95%.

Could also be that the human is flagging actual positives, found by the AI, as false positives.

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