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Coming even from from an anarchist (i.e. someone who is also distrustful of government, media, etc), this type of stuff makes you guys sound crazy. In 2023 saying Tiananmen Square massacre never happened is an extraordinary claim and therefore is going to require extraordinary evidence for effective persuasion. You behave like Chinese state apologists to most people.
Now maybe you're right, TBH I can't claim to know for certain, but if you actually want to convince people you need to do more than point to documents I have no more reason to believe than the pictures and documents I've already seen. Why should I believe your sources vs what as far as I can tell is the rest of the academic world that doesn't agree with you? Especially when it seems apparent that current Chinese leadership has an obvious authoritarian quality and ends justify the means type of attitude. You may deny this but all it takes for me to believe it is to see the fear in the faces of Chinese people when asked certain questions.
You have seen documents that are reliable and not published by American and European imperialist intelligence agencies? Produce them then, that is the extraordinary claim
I have only seen what is common of Americans to see, just like 911. Do you think 911 happened? I've been there, was there no twin towers ever? They're not there now. I haven't seen any special highly credible documents about that either, but I'm pretty sure it happened (who did is another question).
I actually went to Pace university in 2001.
There are videos and eye witness accounts of 9/11. There are literally only CIA and American accounts of this "atrocity" in China a country Americans hate in a way that can only be described as racist, using talking points that they always lie about. Do you believe the Iraqi's had WMDs? Do you believe that the North Vietnamese forces attacked the Maddox? Do you believe that Iraqis threw babies on the floor in Kuwait? You never looked into it have you? You saw a picture of a tank and had white people tell you things.