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[–] sharkfucker420@sh.itjust.works 48 points 1 year ago (12 children)

I can finally ask iPhone users for a charger. The world is healing

[–] valiente@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Bet you they will make their cable charge non iPhones slower... adding some proprietary tech inside the charger, phone or cable which only allows fast charging on Official Apple Certified products etc.

[–] Goodtoknow@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

EU regulations banned that idea from taking place thankfully

[–] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago

just imagine how dystopian our world would be if there was no EU

[–] shinratdr@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don’t know why people think this. USB-C is on every Apple product except iPhone and AirPods, and they were quite an early adopter of it, putting it on the MacBook in 2015. For comparison, the first Samsung phone with USB-C was the Note 7, 1.5 years later.

They’ve done nothing proprietary with it in all that time, and Apple products with USB-C have followed the spec quite closely (unlike offenders such as Nintendo). Outside of unsubstantiated rumours and FUD, there’s no reason to think they’ll do anything different.

[–] whofearsthenight@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They do have a solid rumor that they're sticking with USB 2.0 speeds for for the USB C iPhone and that non-MFI certified cables may be slow charging only, so while I've got my finger's crossed that's false since I'm an iPhone guy, Apple still seems to be looking for a way to skirt the EU and still get the accessory cut.

[–] shinratdr@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

USB 2.0 I would buy, I’m sure they have the telemetry to tell them that like less than 1% of iPhones are ever plugged into a computer or data accessory at this point. USB 3 would be nice but it’s not a dealbreaker for almost anyone.

MFI certification I don’t. They didn’t do it with iPads or MacBooks, why with iPhones? It just doesn’t pass the smell test. Just one product that shares the same connector with all their other products has an MFI program but all the others don’t? Even though when it was Lightning, MFI applied to all of them?

It’s possible they will launch a program, but it will just be one that allows you to put the little “MFI” icon on your box. It won’t be one that will limit charging speeds. I get the uncertainty if this was the first Apple product to switch to USB, but it’s the last major one. Just wouldn’t make sense.

[–] blindjezebel@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Genuinely curious, how did Nintendo change their specs for USB C? I still charge both my steam deck and switch off the charger my deck came with, but only the deck works with the usb-c to hdmi dongle I got. How does that work?

[–] GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

There was quite a scandal years ago because the Switch could get fried by third-party docks.

I've heard different explanations and I'm not 100% sure what's true.

Here's a good FAQ on the topic. https://switchchargers.com/nintendo-switch-bricking-faq/

If anyone knows more about this, please share! I'm not sure if the Switch is indeed noncompliant or if that was just a rumor/hypothesis.

[–] Prof_Eibe@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

There is a paper of one thirdparty producer, that explains what happens in cheap products: https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2019/08/heres-why-nintendo-switch-consoles-keep-frying/

[–] shinratdr@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago

That I’m not exactly sure about. All I know is that every Apple device with USB-C I own works with all the USB-C docks I own with full port compatibility and video out, yet 3rd party docks have fried Switches and to get video out you need their dock.

If you search online I’m pretty sure people have gone indepth about what exactly Nintendo did differently.

[–] sweeny@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Yep, and Samsung (basically the apple of android) already does this. It's annoying having all these old proprietary Samsung fast chargers around now that I've switched to google. They still charge decently, I just wish everyone would use the free fast charging standard

[–] Gork@lemm.ee -3 points 1 year ago

They've already got that. Cables need to be "MFI Certified" by Apple so charging works correctly.

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