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Do you think Rust should architecturally replace Kotlin? (lemmy.ml)

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Apologies if this question isn't really appropriate for this community, but Rust and Kotlin are my two favorite programming languages, and currently, I use both for different projects. However, I'm curious as to if people here think Kotlin still has a place when Rust exists? I'm specifically speaking architecturally: disregarding existing legacy code or support, do you think in the future, the Rust platform should replace the Kotlin platforms (JVM, LLVM Native, Android, Web) for everything Kotlin can do, or do you think Kotlin can do some things better than Rust?

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[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 15 points 3 years ago (4 children)

I'm more experienced with java, but have used kotlin a bit too. The JVM languages are extremely versatile and capable of doing anything, but kotlin is probably the best of them in terms of syntax.

That said, after dealing with java's garbage collector, I don't think garbage-collected languages have a place in the future. Rust showed me that despite claims of garbage collected languages being easier, simple scoping and borrowing don't really add any complication, and are better in terms of memory in the long run, and a better choice for pretty much every type of application.

But practically of course browsers aren't going anywhere (so we'll still need to learn javascript / typescript), and neither is android (so we'll still need to learn a jvm language). I'll still use kotlin, but only for android. Rust already has functioning web servers, UI toolkits, CLI toolkits, and everything you need for desktop or server apps.

[–] bino@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

I would at least disagree on the browser side, look at dioxus-liveview. There is no need for js anymore 😉

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