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«The problem is, you can't dismiss eyewitness testimony too readily. The reason we can explain most UFO sightings as relatively conventional phenomena, like Venus or whatever, is because people are good observers but lousy interpreters. We know it was Venus because they saw it in that direction at that time, at that angle above the horizon. You can't say they're lousy only if they describe something that doesn't fit.»

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France had full disclosure in 1999 and the world simply didn't care. So, what is the holdup in the US? It clearly isn't because there is concern for civil unrest. There has to be another reason.

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The original was posted on /r/ufos by /u/phr99 on 2024-11-22 22:08:55+00:00.

Original Title: Gallaudet: "The frequency of UAP activity off the Southern California coast is so prolific that Navy personnel have become numb to it." Ryan Graves: "Approximately 50% of the US Naval aviators encounter UAP during naval operations and are a safety of flight issue."


I didnt know it had gotten THAT bad...

Both quotes are from the SOL conference:

Gallaudet: The current frequency of UAP activity off the Southern California coast is so prolific that Navy personnel have become numb to it.

Ryan Graves: Approximately 50% of the US Naval aviators encounter UAP during naval operations and are a safety of flight issue.

It sounds like a dramatic increase in UAP activity. Either china has achieved some reverse engineering breakthrough, or this is somehow part of the NHI plan. Why else would there so much activity near US Navy exercises.

And btw im guessing that this includes radar operators, they see strange stuff on the radar (like fleets of UAP going from the atmosphere to sealevel and back as in the tictac case) and just can't do anything with it.

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https://parallaxuap.blogspot.com/2021/03/how-dod-is-keeping-tabs-on-uap-related.html?m=1

Is it legal for them to request control of any UAP related FOIA from the office? There is clearly a large effort to hide and obfuscate this topic to the point of strict FOIA control by a single or small group of actors.

Curious as to what you make of this as well. I find this even more interesting in light of Timothy Philips recent linkedin comments where he states there is currently 12 committees governing the UAP issue. He also states that there is no videos or data not being shown when these FOIA requests clearly show intentions otherwise!

Whole lot of action and oversight going on over something that supposedly is not even real or simply foreign "drones" as the DOE energy sec loves to say, or that is balloons as AARO loves to say! Also would like to add "nuances of all this" of what? The document states there is definitely information not even data that cannot be shared publicly. If all UAP are is simply drones and balloons then why classify that?? Obvious obfuscation that warrants congressional attention.

I will say if congress wants first hand whistleblowers then provide adequate protections for people of this nature, and then maybe subpoena James Lacatski and Colm Kelleher? They have told corbel and others of gaining entrance to a craft. Then if subpoenaed they are legally obligated to confess and simultaneously provided the actual protections required which they stated are not currently good enough and they do not have faith in congress to protect them.

https://silvarecord.com/2020/05/09/is-government-spokesperson-gough-thwarting-foia/

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Original Title: Eric Davis at Sol: "It's been pretty clear from people like Jim Lacatski, a 4 star admiral, a general, 3 star admiral, a current corporate [VP], who either been briefed on it directly or have worked on it directly, that it is of non-human origin. It's very clear. There's no ambiguity about it."

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For any Canadians on here: Until January 19th we need 500 signatures for MP Maguire to read our recommendations to House of Commons. I am told often that MPs don't see a public interest in the topic. Let's show them we're very interested.

This is an official Government of Canada petition number e-5178, not a third party petition.

Canadian citizens, Canadians outside Canada, and residents of Canada can sign.

Please take a moment to read, sign and share!

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Original Title: In the Congressional hearing Elizondo said UAP interfere with nuclear equities. An audio tape exists of this: UAPs shoot beams of light towards nuclear missiles. One of the witnesses touched the UAP, another was frozen and injured. Elizondo mentioned this injured person too. Nolan studied his brain.


The Rendlesham case is well known, but is often dismissed. However, the recent congressional UAP hearings and other events have basically validated that the Rendlesham incident actually happened. Below are some points that demonstrate this:

Audio recording of UAP intefering with nuclear missile facilities:

A TLDR of the Rendlesham Forest case: in december 1980, the first night of the incident, many US personnel on two nuclear armed US/NATO military bases in the UK saw strange lights in the forest. The forest was located between the two military bases, and both were on high alert because NATO thought the Soviet Union was about to invade Poland.

A handful went to investigate. Two of them came very close and found a smooth, black, glassy car-sized triangular object in the forest. One of the military witnesses was able to walked around and touch the craft for some time. After awhile it flew away, but 2 days later it came back. The deputy base commander then decided to investigate it himself with a small team (and a tape recorder and geiger counter).

He made this audio recording (timestamp 19:08). Some quotes:

03:15: Now weve got an object about 10 degrees direcly south, 10 degrees of the horizon. To the left. And the ones to the north are moving. Ones moving away from us. Moving out fast.

This one on the rights heading away too.

Yeah theyre both heading north. Hey, here he comes from the south. He's coming toward us now! Now we're observing what appears to be a beam coming down to the ground! This is unreal! [note: this beam was right in front of their feet. They were in a meadow at this point]

03:30 and the objects are still in the sky, although the one to the south looks like its losing a bit of altitude. Were turning around and heading back toward the base. The object, the object to the south is still beaming down lights to the ground!

04:00 hours. One object still hovering over Woodbridge base at about 5 to 10 degrees off the horizon, still moving erratic and similar lights and beaming down as earlier.

Notice in the last two paragraph that the witnesses see the UAPs shooting beams of light towards Woodridge base. So not only did one of the UAP shoot a beam of light right infront of their feet, but they were also shooting these beams at nuclear weapons.

Congressional UAP hearing: NHI activity at nuclear missile sites

Elizondo said this at the UAP hearing (timestamp 37:19):

Let me be clear: UAP or Advanced Technologies not made by our government or any other government are monitoring sensitive military installations around the globe. Furthermore the US is in possession of UAP Technologies, as are some of our adversaries. I believe we are in the midst of a multi-decade secretive arms race, one funded by misallocated taxpayer dollars, and hidden from our elected representatives and oversight bodies for many years.

So this is an admission that NHI are monitoring sensitive military sites. Elsewhere in the hearing he mentions nuclear facilities directly, that UAP interfere with "nuclear equities".

On googlemaps you can see the nuclear missile locations

Its a public secret that these NATO bases contained nuclear weapons. No service personnel or politicians are allowed to admit this. But everyone knows its true.

Googlemaps link

Just zoom in/out a bit and you will see the 2 military bases. Scroll around and find the locations of the nuclear weapons.

Congressional UAP hearing: injuries by UAP

From the recent UAP hearing (timestamp 56:99):

Nancy Mace: In your book you mentioned government employees who've been injured by uaps, placed on leave and receiving government compensation for their injuries. Is that correct?

Elizondo: That is correct.

How can the government deny we have recovered craft if they're paying people because they've been injured by recovered craft?

Nancy Mace: Ma'am that's a great question. That's why I think we're here again, because I've seen the documentation by the US government for several of these individuals who have sustain sustained injuries as a result of a UAP incident.

Elizondo confirms one of the injured persons is a Rendlesham incident witness

In another interview (timestamp 1:04:41, Elizondo (or it was Sheehan) mentioned one of these injured people by name: "Burroughs". John Burroughs is the name of one the two Rendlesham forest witnesses that came closest to the craft:

Elizondo: There's an individual right now named John burroughs who had his medical files classified in the US government. Thankfully because of late Senator John McCain from Arizona, that forced the Air Force to release his files. As a result he was able to get full medical disability because of an incident that involved him and another individual in the UK known as Rendlesham Forest incident, or Bentwaters incident, where there was a joint US and UK base. This UFO had landed in the forest and they went out to go see this thing and they were injured. They were in the military at the time, Air Force Special police.

The injured Rendlesham witness was probably studied by Garry Nolan

The witness that came closest to the Rendlesham craft is Jim Penniston. In his book he describes that as he and Burroughs approached the craft, there was an explosion of white light. He then saw that Burroughs was completely frozen within white light. He himself was able to get closer and inspect the craft.

In the book he describes that many years later two people from the intelligence community approached him to give DNA, blood, etc. He refused, he didnt trust them. But he also wrote that Burroughs did agree. I dont have links to the sources, but i remember one of these people was Kit Green, and Nolan also was approached in a similar fashion (also by Kit Green if im not mistaken).

Btw Burroughs is also mentioned in the Shellenberger documents:

Senator John McCain arranged for Burroughs to get medical compensation

Burroughs had long tried to get medical compensation for his injuries. VA (Veterans Affairs) needed to see his medical records and evidence that he was injured while on duty. But his records were classified. After many years, it was Senator John McCain who helped Burroughs to finally get medical compensation.

This also matches with Elizondo's testimony that some receive government compensation for their injuries.

The craft material looks exactly like that in a Lockheed Martin video

In a video posted 10 years ago by Lockheed Martin (timestamp 00:42) (the exact timestamp of the material is 00:53), they show a material that looks exactly like Rendlesham witness Penniston describes. First some quotes from the Lockheed video:

What if we could integrate those parts together in a holistic manner. Can we do things like embed the carbon Nanotubes, to make a conductive structure so that information doesn't flow through a wire next to a structure, but literally flows through the structure. We'll be able to grow or make a structure that say is the skin of an aircraft, that inside of that is also contained the sensors, or the energy storage, or many different multiple functions. New materials that are on the lab bench right now, they can literally change shape on command. They can become almost a muscular material.

Witness description of the Rendlesham forest craft material

Watch the above Lockheed Martin video (at the exact timestamp 00:53) and notice the light / information stream that is visible inside the material. Now compare this to what Rendlesham witness Penniston describes. Remember he walked around the craft for some time, made sketches and touched it (these quotes are from his book "The Rendlesham enigma"):

Without a sound, distinct 'circular' and 'pie-shaped' lights were blinking on and off and moving sequentially just under the black shiny surface and around the craft like a digital display, while colored shapes and globular forms of light were emerging and moving throughout the surface of the body. These colored globules of light were randomly forming under the black opaque surface or skin and then fad...


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I’d like to share with you a fascinating French case that is relatively unknown outside our country: the Haravilliers Case. This case is absolutely remarkable, as it involves multiple witnesses at different locations reporting the exact same phenomena. Moreover, these witnesses are considered highly credible.

The story begins with five old friends who had planned to meet in a field early in the morning (while it was still dark) to hunt. Four of the friends were traveling in one car, while the fifth was driving separately.

The lone driver reported hearing a faint noise, akin to a soft wind. When he looked up, he saw a massive craft—a black disk with numerous lights above and below it. He felt utterly paralyzed, unable to move, and eventually lost consciousness.

Meanwhile, the four friends in the other car, at a different spot, witnessed the exact same object—a large craft with hovering lights. However, their experience was even stranger. All four reported feeling a profound emptiness when they saw the object, describing the sensation as deeply unpleasant. They also lost consciousness, only to wake up later to find their car parked over a kilometer away from their original location.

One of the friends, Bruno, a retired high-security installation technician, claimed to remember fragments of what happened. He described being pulled into the craft by a beam of light and encountering strange, lifeless robots. He also noted a terrible smell that lingered with him long after the incident. Following this experience, Bruno was diagnosed with keratoconjunctivitis, with his doctor suggesting that his eyes might have been exposed to radiation.

But that’s not all. The next day, the village mayor received a complaint from another resident who reported seeing the same object at the same time. Other villagers began coming forward with similar accounts. One family reported that at 7 a.m.—the same time as the friends’ experience—their young child started screaming in terror, something they said had never happened before. When they went to check on the child, they saw strange lights outside their window that matched the description given by the friends.

In total, numerous residents of this small French village reported seeing the same phenomenon. Given the village's size and the lack of any apparent motive to fabricate these claims, it’s clear that something extraordinary occurred that night.

The case caught the attention of Jacques Vallée, who studied the witnesses and found that none of them had any prior interest in UFOs. Despite investigations, the Haravilliers Case remains an enduring mystery, as no credible alternative explanations have emerged that do not involve something beyond our world.

I've included a few drawings: the first is a recreation by one of the investigators, while the last two were drawn by the abducted witness himself.

I’ve omitted several details to keep this account concise. If you’re interested in exploring the case further, here are some French resources that delve deeper:

Investigations:

Documentary:

  • A French documentary about abductions, with the Haravilliers Case featured in its first part:
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What classified briefing did I stake out this week!?!

Was that AARO folks in there?, I asked Warner as he exited the SCIF this Tuesday, Nov. 19th (after at least 13 confirmed members of Senate Intel left).

“No,” Warner exclusively toldAsk a Pol. “Totally separate.”

LINK:

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Original Title: Rep Nancy Mace says she was shocked and awestruck when Lue Elizondo told her under oath that US gov't has conducted secret UAP crash retrieval programs that were designed to identify and reverse engineer alien craft.

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Ive been trying to make sense of that year as important. What could be so definitive? I got to thinking of the possibilities. Perhaps it's a discovery of the next order of magnitude of energy creation (subnuclear fission) or some other massive fundamental change. what if it were a scientific discovery in 2027 that will force disclosure. Are there any facilities that will become operational around that time that might be tied to UAP/disclosure somehow? Not necessarily directly involved but that might be uncovered in the conventional pursuit of science.

Edit: I've had a chance to read through some comments. God damn yall can't read a post fully. Everyone seems to be attacking Elizondo. All I'm interested in is what, if any, could the scientific community be unknowingly walking us into. Not whether or not you think he's trying so sell more books. Thanks all.

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I'm not going to claim there's been a central planning committee orchestrating all the happenings around UFO/UAP disclosure all along. The chaos and infighting has been pretty clear as there have been uncontrolled whistleblowers and leaks creating interest since the 2017 NYT article and everything since then that's tipped off Congress and created public visibility and pressure. I think it's possible the gatekeepers have been struggling to contain the full secret but the pressure has forced their hand and they've turned a corner and managed to organize the various stakeholders around disclosing the bare minimum - the fact of NHI presence but acknowledging very little beyond it.

Here are some of the things I see that suggest bare minimum disclosure is at hand:

  • AARO with it's rebranding is setting itself up to acknowledge and "discover" the anomalous nature of UAP and provide proof that we're not alone. Yet they've not shown even a hint of seriously investigating legacy programs or revealing anything of that nature, no acknowledgement of whistleblower claims from recent House hearing, attempted debunking of the famous released videos (GOFAST), etc.
  • Transparency champions have gone quiet. Senators associated with UAP (Gillibrand, Rubio, etc) have mostly backed off and are focused only on identifying current aerial threats and UAP, tackling nothing historical even the Nimitz / Tic Tac case. David Grusch has gone quiet. The supposed OpEd hasn't materialized.
  • The full UAPDA has been sidelined and the parts pertaining to reverse engineered technology and the independent committee to investigate and declassify was dropped. The centralization of documents at the Archives is going forward but still prone to not revealing records for "national security" reasons which can continue to cover up legacy programs while perhaps only revealing that the government has known or suspected for quite a while.
  • Videos are being taken down or buried that speak to the historical government engagement, e.g. Jesse Michels interview with Grusch, conspicuous renaming of House hearing from 2023, etc.
  • Some House congresspeople are still pushing for bigger disclosure because they've been left out of the loop which explains why they went ahead with the recent hearings. Notice who's conspicuously not been involved? The House members who have the highest clearance to be briefed on the subject (gang of eight): Mike Turner, Jim Himes, Mike Johnson, and Hakeem Jeffries. It's only the ones out of the loop who are speaking up.

In general my sense is we're seeing less conflict among the government bodies and AARO has shifted to the new narrative. The ones in Congress with the most oversight and power have simmered down and there's is a path forward to finally reveal the fact of NHI without dealing with the serious problems of historical crimes and legacy reverse engineered technology. They have the publicly acknowledged shootdowns from early 2023 to demonstrate we've recently confirmed existence of NHI technology and have begun reverse engineering it (our saviors!). So they can acknowledge the NHI presence but deny the pre-existing conspiracy and reverse engineering arms race. It will be pretty transparent to many of us that they're hiding something -- how could all of those historical clues and leaks have been wrong when we find out NHI really IS here and probably has been(?) -- but it will take the biggest pressure point off and they can comfortably let everyone go on wondering how much the government already knew about it. The broader public will swallow the mainstream story with the media's help even though there will be doubts. We've lived with collective doubts for a long time already, it's nothing new.

If this is the direction of disclosure I would predict roadblocks or pushback going up against anything pointing to legacy programs -- James Fox new documentary The Program, anything new from David Grusch, reverse engineering programs leakers -- meanwhile steady progress on declassifying UAP data and finally public validation of their anomalous nature. They may go ahead and reveal they HAVE been aware and collecting data on the phenomenon for some time (so we feel safe) and they may create the narrative that this is what any legacy programs were actually about, but they'll downplay advanced reverse engineered technology and certainly omit any illegal program and cover-up activities.

What do you think? .

EDIT: I think the redlines they will not dare disclose will include:

  • Significant progress was made years ago with reverse engineering efforts, e.g. ARV. At most they could admit recent breakthroughs. They would never admit they've been sitting on this technology for a while and allowed the climate/energy disaster to pile up.
  • Significant crimes were committed to cover up the secret. This is a morass nobody wants to address.
  • Long standing communication or agreements with NHI.
  • President and executive branch leadership have been routinely lied to or left in the dark.
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Tonight, I was walking the dog. It was a completely clear starry sky, not a single cloud.

I have always loved looking at the night sky since I was a kid and always believed that we are not alone in space.

And here I am walking, I raise my head and literally above me, a UFO is flying silently in the form of a triangle at high speed, in one direction. I watched it for 4-5 seconds, it flew by me very quickly, I wouldn't have been able to film it on my phone.

I've seen Starlink satellites - it's completely different, they fly slowly and in a chain.

I am from Ukraine, and yesterday Russia hit us with the first intercontinental ballistic missile in history that can carry a nuclear charge, which may be why aliens are monitoring Russia's intentions.

I think that the disclosure is close, since they are already flying around like this to show themselves.

This story is not fiction and I still can't believe it. I'm sharing this news with you because everyone around me will take me for a mentally ill person and won't believe me.

Ask questions, I'll be happy to answer them.

It was shaped like the one in the screenshot, only sharper and more lights, and also here in the screenshot the light itself looks like light, but in my case the light did not look so bright, but like stars and it was far away and high.

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