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The original was posted on /r/ufos by /u/bobbyedmo22 on 2024-11-25 21:10:29+00:00.
Everyone knows Hillary/Podesta were planning something interesting in 2015/16, but it is rare to see someone tracing this back to it's routes in the 90s.
The truth is that Bill Clinton's push for UFO information in his first term is way more impressive than anything that happened in 2016.
During his first term Clinton has his CIA Director (James Woolsey), his Attorney General (Webster Hubbell), his Secretary for Science & Tech (Jack Gibbons), his Secretary of Defence (William Cohen), his National Security Advisor (Sandy Berg) and his Secretary of the Air Force (Shiella Widnall) all pushing for more UFO transparency.
None of this is to mention John Podesta who Clinton has openly stated was his partner in crime during this activity.
What is most interesting to me is that the activity seems to stop suddenly in March 1997 with no explanation. This is all the more astounding when you realise it was this month that the Phoenix Lights occurred and it was April - June of 1997 when the Admiral Wilson incidents are purported to have happened.
I have created a deep dive podcast episode on this fascinating story here:
But, for those of you who just want the raw data and links. Here is the timeline with reference links listed at the bottom.
CLINTON ADMINISTRATION UFO ACTIVISM TIMELINE:
April 1993
Rockefeller makes initial contact with Jack Gibbons - Clinton’s Science & Technology Secretary
July 1993
Congressman Steven H Schiff made inquiries about Roswell incident to the DoD. He asked the General Accounting Office (GAO) (subsequently renamed the Government Accountability Office) to determine the requirements for reporting air accidents, such as the crash near Roswell, and to identify any government records concerning the Roswell crash.
1993 - 1994
Bill Clinton asks his Attorney General, Webster Hubbell to find out all that he could about two things: who killed JFK and what the government knew about UFOs. He reported to the president after being stonewalled by the relevant agencies that there was a secret government that closely holds secrets to which the president doesn’t even have access.
December 1993
Clinton’s CIA Director, James Woolsey, orders another review of all Agency files on UFOs. The study he ordered traced CIA interest and involvement in the UFO controversy from the late 1940s to 1990.
March 1994
Rockefeller and Scott Jones have 2 meetings with Jack Gibbons - Clinton’s Science & Technology Secretary to discuss how to move forwards. They agree to focus on one case to start with and expand once they have success there. They choose Roswell.
Later, Jacques Vallee writes in his journals that Kit Green may have gone up to deliver a briefing to Jack Gibbons after the CIA didn’t give him a proper briefing, instead choosing to send UFO researcher and Navy Physicist Bruce Maccabee to share his thoughts on the phenomenon.
April-May 1994
Jack Gibbons has requested that the USAF perform a review of the Roswell case. Sheila E Widnall (Secretary of the Air Force) and Colonel Richard L Weaver (USAF & Director of Security and Special Program Oversight) correspond with him informing him of their efforts to put a report together.
4th of September 1994
Jack Gibbons gets his hands on the preliminary USAF report and shares it with key contacts.
2nd of December 1994
After reading the report, Scott B Jones writes to Gibbons stating:
**“**The Air Force was correct in their assessment that the repot will not satisfy their critics - and for good reasons. In my opinion the AF is incorrect in their assertion that they will have no more to say about Roswell. Their dodging of the reported recovery of the bodies by apprently failing to interview the last few remaining alive witnesses in this part of the mystery was a serious mistake that will haunt them in the future. Jack, I hope that you got a fuller briefing from the air force than the public, self-serving statement released by them.”
August 1995
Bill & Hillary Clinton accept invitation to Lawrence Rockefeller’s ranch where the iconic photo of Hillary & Rockefeller is taken where she is holding a copy of Paul Davies’ book “Are we alone? The philosophical implications of extra-terrestrial life”
November 1995
Clinton “I wanna know” speech in Belfast.
While on a trip to Ireland, Clinton held a Christmas letter competition and read out the winning letters during his speech. Clinton read a letter he claimed received from a child named Ryan, who had asked him about if an alien spacecraft had crashed at Roswell.
In front of his Belfast audience, Clinton said to Ryan, “No, as far as I know, an alien spacecraft did not crash in Roswell, New Mexico, in 1947.” But then he added, to the delight of his audience, “and Ryan, if the United States Air Force did recover alien bodies, they didn’t tell me about it, either, and I want to know.”
As I discuss in my analysis, there are compelling reasons to believe that Ryan’s letter was fabricated by Clinton.
It is very interesting to see Clinton highlighting the bodies after Scott Jones said this was exactly the detail the USAF report didn’t address.
1996-97
Chris Mellon received a request from Clinton’s Sec Def - Secretary Cohen. According to Mellon, an astronaut had claimed to have recorded a video of a UFO that landed at Edwards Air Force Base. After rushing to get the film developed it had immediately been taken by higher ups never to be seen again.
The astronaut (Gordon Cooper - see references) had told the President and now Clinton was determined to get hold of the video. Air Force was adamant that there was no such information.
1996-97
Clinton sends former National Security Advisor Sandy Berger to Nevada to determine if they were holding non human technology.
March 1997
2nd USAF report on Roswell report is shared with the Whitehorse prior to it’s full release in June 1997. This time focused on the bodies. The USAF writing a 2nd report on Roswell strongly implies the Clinton Whitehouse to look again at the issue.
It’s fascinating to see the second report is focused on the bodies. It is hard not to assume that this is connected to Scott Jones letter and the impact it appears to have had on Clinton.
This report was called The Roswell Report: CASE CLOSED - hint hint.
INFORMATIVE INTERVIEWS/EVENTS AFTER THE PUSH:
September 1998
In 1998, the Washington Post scooped a quote from Clinton’s Press Secretary Mike McCurry that is really informative. McCurry said:
“John can get totally maniacal and phobic on certain subjects,” McCurry said. “He’s been known to pick up the phone to call the Air Force and ask them what’s going on in Area 51.”
2005 - Bill Clinton:
Bill Clinton confirms that his administration was looking into UFOs. Firstly in an obscure clip in Hong Kong in 2005, 4 years after leaving office…
“I don't know if you all remember this but there was actually… when I was President in my second term, there was an anniversary observance of Roswell you remember that people came to Roswell New Mexico from all over the world and and there was also a site in Nevada where people were convinced that the government had buried a UFO and perhaps an alien deep underground because we wouldn't allow anybody to go there…
…and I could say this now because it's now been released into the public domain uh I actually I had so many people in my own administration were convinced that Roswell was a fraud but this place in Nevada was really serious there was an alien artifact there so I actually sent somebody there to figure it out.”
And, in 2022 on the James Corden show, Bill Clinton confirms that Podesta was a key side-kick in this effort:
“when i was president and i had a chief of staff john podesta who loved science fiction we made every attempt to find out everything about Roswell… and we also sent people to area 51 to make sure there were no aliens in a deep… because area 51 is very important…”
The Clintons and Podesta suddenly and without explanation stop their formal push for disclosure in early 1997. The paper trail runs dry. And this happens JUST as the biggest and most widely witnessed UFO event in American history occurs (the Pheonix Lights) AND the wilson/davis memo incidents took place (april - june 1997). Both of these events would have been known to Clinton and his administration. The former, because it represented a huge incursion of domestic airspace over a major city, and the later because of the connections Clinton/Gibbons/Podesta had to the Rockefeller initiative.
So why did they suddenly stop?
My take here is that the administration was made aware, by some channel and some means, that the were to stop pushing on this issue.
And, in his 2005 Hong Kong interview, Clinton seems to point in that direction:
“I did attempt to find out if there were any secret government documents that reveal things and if there were they were concealed from me too. I wouldn't be the first president that underlings have lied to or that career bureaucrats have waited out but there may be some career person sitting around somewhere hiding these dark secrets even from elected presidents but if so they successfully eluded me.”
It’s fascinating to hear Clinton implying the existence of a “deep...
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