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Was there even a mass exodus? I largely avoid Reddit now, but I do kind of doubt that they've been hurt in any meaningful way by all the protests and people leaving...

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[–] bratorange@feddit.de 219 points 1 year ago (20 children)

Is it important that Reddit suffers? For me the important thing is that lemmy flourishes and has good oc.

[–] FierroGamer@sh.itjust.works 72 points 1 year ago

I support this point of view, but at the same time I want the status quo to be disrupted and the internet to change, I'm not a fan of allowing corporations to fall into complacency when they hold so much power.

[–] Jagermo@feddit.de 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Right? Ignore them, have fun here. No reason to give any thought to them.

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[–] voidMainVoid@lemmy.world 139 points 1 year ago (5 children)

No idea, and I don't care. What matters for me is that there are enough people on Lemmy to keep it interesting.

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[–] Daisyifyoudo@lemmy.world 107 points 1 year ago (12 children)

Can't speak for anyone else, but as soon as RIF died I was gone. Was on it for over 10 years, and the only way I would view reddit content. Reddit's ui is cancer.

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[–] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 85 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Just have a look at the content there, it dropped a lot in quality.

[–] couragethebravedog@lemmy.ml 50 points 1 year ago (2 children)

As someone who only ever browsed all, I see no difference.

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[–] Phegan@lemmy.world 80 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Honestly, I don't really care. I like it here more than reddit and if it stays like it is, awesome.

I have no desire to see reddit succeed or fail, I simply found a place I fit in better.

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[–] Cipher22@lemmy.world 74 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Several major subs have closed, they're forced to campaign to keep mods, a significant amount of content generators have left. Even though it's been only a couple weeks, they've slid on the global index of visited sites. They've lost 3-4% of 1.7 billion views in weeks. That's 10's of millions of ads not delivered. That alone is several million dollars lost on a site trying to be profitable. This doesn't include people on the fence, people currently unaffected because their app didn't die until this week, or people just watching the drama until it's boring again. Also, Reddit depends heavily on free labor to succeed, the bulk of the community that is leaving is their free labor pool. They don't have the cash to pay moderators for their time and they just removed the tools that let those people do their work.

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[–] legion@lemmy.world 59 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I didn't leave to make the service worse.

The service got worse, and so I left.

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[–] STRIKINGdebate2@lemmy.world 53 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Anyone that expected Lemmy to instantly get as big as reddit overnight were naive. Overall I think only a small fraction went away but reddit is clearly using tactics like mass inviting to group chats and reopening places to boost activity.

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[–] alphacyberranger@lemmy.world 52 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Honestly I like Lemmy more and more everyday. It's quality vs quantity when it comes to posts and the users.

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[–] soulifix@lemmy.world 52 points 1 year ago (11 children)

If we're perfectly honest - No.

Reddit has over 53 some odd million users. Million with an M. Lemmy has gained, at most, upwards of just thousands. To call it a 'mass exodus' is really overselling it.

It's going to take a fairly long time, for Lemmy to even scratch 100k even. I'm on both Reddit and Lemmy. Lemmy, for a more positive experience. Reddit, because the numbers are just there.

[–] althea_vestrid@lemmy.world 72 points 1 year ago (3 children)

This crisis has given Lemmy enough users to be a vibrant, viable alternative with the software and apps undergoing rapid development. This means the next time that reddit tries to pull some shit, there will be somewhere for people to go, unlike this time. Lemmy just wasn't really ready for prime time.

[–] ButhJolokia@feddit.nl 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I think you are correct. Lemmy is really just gearing up at the moment, but can't handle the volume to compete with reddit.

The increase of instances, user guides, communities and third party apps are necessary building stones of a federated reddit alternative of size.

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[–] SlothMama@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

Lemmy has almost half a million accounts ( 400k ) with over 1.5 million posts. lemmy.world grew by ~30k new accounts in June.

Others grew by single digit thousands, so the migration seems to be about ~50k new users to Lemmy.

That's not trivial, Reddit had those kind of numbers in like 2007. Give it time.

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[–] HoagieBoy@lemmy.world 50 points 1 year ago

Only evidence I have is:
any day of week 1 of using Lemmy I had about 1 page of new stories on my subscribed communities any day of week 2 of using Lemmy I had about 2 pages of new stories on my communities any day of week 3 (this week) I'm at least 4 pages in and still haven't hit on the old stories

[–] laxsill@infosec.pub 50 points 1 year ago

I'm just happy to be here. I care less and less about reddit. Using lemmy and mastodon for a while, it's gotten more and more important to me to just build a great, fun, healthy community and less important (emotionally) to bring down the giants. I still care about it politically and theoretically, I just don't feel it as much.

[–] AlteredStateBlob@kbin.social 46 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I feel all those posts about reddit looking for mods for various communities is a good indicator. They might not have lost quantity all that much, but a very small portion of quality kept a lot of reddit interesting and running smoothly. A lot of that has either just dropped entirely engaging or migrated.

I doubt everyone would move. Some people simply take it as a sign to move on and do other things with their limited time on this little planet.

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[–] sneezymrmilo@lemmy.world 46 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The real question is why anyone cares? Move on and just enjoy Lemmy. Forget about reddit.

[–] moistclump@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I’m torn on this. Because a sort of injustice happened. Do we really just ignore enshitification, try to educate others, reflect and keep an eye on the site while trying to understand what happened and not repeat old mistakes? Or just move on with our lives and hope that the injustices sort themselves out?

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[–] GoddessOfGouda@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

Personally I came over bc the app I used stopped working (boost). Lemmy seems to have the same content I used reddit for:

  • US politics headlines
  • Memes
  • Niche communities

I don't plan on going back to reddit unless it's via Boost. Fediverse is better anyway

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[–] S_204@lemm.ee 41 points 1 year ago

This is some fomo type shit.... forget about your ex, invest in your current!!!

[–] ComptitiveSubset@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fuck Reddit. I’m here now and it’s great.

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[–] Send_me_nude_girls@feddit.de 37 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The timing of /r/place nullified any possibility evidence of an effect, as a ton of streamer featured this event, creating traffic. I wouldn't be surprised if they got a huge net profit this month.

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[–] iegod@lemm.ee 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

What I do know is that I'm happier having left.

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[–] Rylyshar@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I hope so, but I don't care. The same with the bird site. I chose to delete my barely-used bird account when that idiot bought it, and to explore mastadon and lemmy when I could no longer use Apollo to view reddit. Two or 3 times I've popped over to reddit to see what's going on, and check on any other subreddits that have moved to lemmy, and using the official reddit browser or app just reinforces why I left. It's shit, and getting shittier.

Basically I like the mantra "not my circus, not my monkeys."

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[–] Yearly1845@reddthat.com 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I checked out Lemmy many years ago. I didn't sign up because there was one post every few days, and each post got a few single upvotes.

Now there are lots of posts a day, and posts on the front page get hundreds and thousands of votes and comments. I don't think we killed reddit, but there was definitely an exodus.

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[–] Macaque@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Have you seen the content lately? It's all trash now. Most contributors have altered their posting habits or left?

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[–] restingboredface@sh.itjust.works 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Im working on a case study for a publishing firm about the whole API announcement and subsequent fallout so I've been watching all this really closely. The thing I'm most anxious for is the data on web traffic to reddit and it's competitors, which I can only get on a monthly basis. It dropped a lot from May to June, which you could attribute to the protest or even the summer. However, Discords traffic increased during that time, and it was the only major social platform to change in either direction. I'm hoping to get some clarity once July data comes out but I don't think we well know for sure about long term impact for a while. Reddit I'm sure knows more but definitely won't share it publicly unless necessary, like if they do go public, but I'm not sure that kind of data would be included in a filing.

(I tracked traffic on similarweb and Semrush. Lemmy is on there too, but is tracked per server, and most were tracked starting in may or June so data is pretty limited and can't really be compared.)

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[–] Rolive@discuss.tchncs.de 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It may be my imagination but I think the quality of Reddit posts has severely gone down. There's also noticeably more nazi propaganda.

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[–] MargotRobbie@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Again, as long as we're being thoughtful and having fun here, people will come naturally.

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[–] captain_samuel_brady@lemm.ee 26 points 1 year ago

Have they suffered at all? I think the answer is fairly obvious. You’re here, right? Would you be here if they hadn’t fucked around? I wouldn’t be here.

[–] SageWaterDragon@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (3 children)

No, of course not. If you're using Lemmy as a "protest" instead of thinking that it's a better platform, it's totally ineffectual and you'll go back to using Reddit sooner or later. Personally, I think that the fediverse is a more compelling idea than the traditional internet, so I'm sticking with Lemmy for a bit in one form or another.

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[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

I got a lot of people from the r/place Fuck Spez movement to switch over. I also got really enlightening advice from one of our supporters. They told me that people will come over once we become easy to use and well established, which we're nearing but not there yet.

With all the third party apps we have gotten like Liftoff and Voyager, things have been a lot more accessible. However, we still have lots of work to do.

Until we become easy enough to use that you feel comfortable telling your family members to sign up and they use it without assistance, we will primarily be a community of tech savvy individuals.

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[–] SHamblingSHapes@lemmy.one 26 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Their user numbers are available with a web search. Reddit useage dipped towards end of June but has mostly leveled out.

Quite a few mods left, which has had a larger impact than an equal number of general users leaving would. The niche topic sub I was involved in went from four mods to one half-hearted mod. The quality of posts has dropped. Almost every comment thread contains complaints. Reports are piled up.

Most surprising to me when I peeked at the sub this weekend was the amount of borderline-incel desperation and negativity. The sub is for a hobby that while slightly male majority, we had plenty of women contributing with minimal problems. Not anymore. If I were a woman looking at that sub for the first time, I would probably block it. It is so depressing and angry now, I barely recognize it.

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[–] Greee1911@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I left and deleted my baconreader app. Haven't gone back since. And I used to spend about an hour a day on there.

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[–] Sniatch@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

I really don't care about reddit anymore. I pretty happy with Lemmy right now.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think the damage done to Reddit is not from protests but the bad management decisions -- enshittification as Corey Doctorow put it -- in order to hasten Reddit's IPO. The attitude by upper management, taking user content for granted, is going to continue to serve to chase users away, or drive them to deprioritize engagement with Reddit.

I'm missing only a couple of communities here on Lemmy but otherwise it serves me as a daily feed. And reddit still can be searched for troubleshooting.

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[–] AnonymousBaba@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

it was about hurting the reddit ? i thought it was about finding a good alternative

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[–] pinwurm@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The content on Reddit has gotten noticeably worse - but less as a result of Lemmy's existence and more of a reaction to killing 3rd Party Apps.

Unfortunately for me, some of my favorite communities haven't migrated over to Lemmy. So I'm still using Old Reddit Desktop to access them.

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