this post was submitted on 05 Jul 2024
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A Boring Dystopia

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[–] KazuchijouNo@lemy.lol 128 points 4 months ago (3 children)

If things keep going like this I guess I'll abandon Youtube completely. How brighter my life will be

[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 40 points 4 months ago (2 children)

That's where things are heading. I wonder what video services will replace it.

[–] Bahnd@lemmy.world 48 points 4 months ago (6 children)

It wont be, the scale of service and ease of revenue sharing will keep it as the king of video distribution untill Google kills it (like they do to all their products). FOSS projects and self hosting can not accomodate a viral hit (the slashdot effect), and also a self-hosted project like that would have to find a way to make money for the host to keep the lights on, and even Youtube fails at that one.

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[–] Kowowow@lemmy.ca 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Could just make a system to automate the ads like muting(or white noise) them and automatically clicking skip, is not as good but still feels like a small win

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[–] Tregetour@lemdro.id 79 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Ad blockers assert your belief in the web browser as user agent, not server agent

  • We know you're using an ad blocker. How dare you.
  • Alphabet's cross-subsidy, and the political value of controlling the Overton window, allows Youtube to remain publicly accessible.
  • You can get double-penetrated with Youtube Premium, first on the subscription fee then on the usage analytics.
[–] Jimbo@yiffit.net 25 points 4 months ago

Triple penetrated, many YouTube Premium features don't even work properly.

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 79 points 4 months ago (2 children)

"Violate Terms of Service" 😂 such agressive language for not wanting to watch endless ads for 2 min videos.

Get fucked.

[–] riplin@lemm.ee 11 points 4 months ago

YouTube violates MY terms of service when it abuses my network infrastructure and resources to download data I did not request.

[–] rbesfe@lemmy.ca 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Violate is standard legal language for breaking a contract or agreement

[–] jakemehoff11@lemmy.world 41 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That sucks. Do you have access to a VPN with servers in Albania or Moldova? They still don't allow ads in youtube videos.

Happened to me last month, I set proton VPN to an Albanian server and everything worked until uBlock got updated to suppress the black screen of death again. Good luck!

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[–] Bonesince1997@lemmy.world 36 points 4 months ago

I love that their warning is an admission of failure

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 36 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I can't wait for the plugin that replaces all the ads with black and white mime videos

[–] hellfire103@lemmy.ca 29 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Datura Network's Invidious instance has a rotating IP, so it's considerably harder for Google to block it.

[–] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 4 months ago

Every Invidious or Piped instance could easily implement IPv6 rotation, the smart-ipv6-rotator is fully FOSS and easy to set up. Invidious and Piped both have official documentation on how to set it up:
https://docs.invidious.io/ipv6-rotator/
https://docs.piped.video/docs/self-hosting/#ipv6-rotator-using-docker

[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 26 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's an interesting situation. YouTube needs us more than we need YouTube.

[–] Nelots@lemm.ee 15 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Unfortunately, that really doesn't seem to be true. YT is a monopoly, they do what they want. None of my friends use Firefox, despite me telling them that ad blockers still work on it. They could spend 3 minutes switching to Firefox and losing some of the niche features they have on Opera GX or whatever they hell they use, or they could just watch the occasional 5-second ad. They just don't care enough. I imagine most users are more than likely like that.

[–] SendMePhotos@lemmy.world 19 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Just go to yewtu.be same thing. No ads, no tracking or analyzing you.

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago

Google foiled again by the yews!! 😂

[–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 18 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I wonder which will happen first: I'll quit watching youtube because the platform becomes too much of a pain in the ass for me to bother with, or I'll quit watching youtube because of how difficult it is to find content I actually want to watch.

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[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 15 points 4 months ago

I switched over to FreeTube for all my Youtube needs.

Lets see if Google can break that one.

[–] DragonConsort@pawb.social 10 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Invidious works absolutely great as an alternative way to access all the content uploaded to YouTube. No ads at all and a way better search function.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

...until they block APIs which is also in progress right?

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[–] hertg@infosec.pub 9 points 4 months ago

Unprompted pro tip: I started running ytdl-sub on my server, added the channels I'm interested in, and now I watch youtube on my personal mediaserver and dont even open the youtube page/app anymore. Because I already know this shit is only gonna get more annoying as time moves on, and especially after the silicon valley growth imperative collapses in on itself. Let's hope we'll have ytdl working for long enough.

You can even configure it to download videos a few days later, after sponsorblock info has been submitted, then it also cuts that out. And you can set it to only keep the last {n} videos if you just intend to watch recent stuff and not keep an archive. It even works for non-youtube. I added Neo Magazine Royale from ZDF Mediathek, and it just worked (shout out to the germans who know what that is)

Cons: I don't get yt recommendations Pros: I don't get yt recommendations

But I still find good new stuff via other feeds, so 🤷‍♂️

[–] Cornelius_Wangenheim@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

Still works for me with a combination of Firefox, uBlock and a VPN. I assume sharing an IP with thousands of other people screws up their detection algorithm.

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