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What?????? What the hell??? — arbitrator Moneytrees, arbitration request for Lourdes

A 2015 arbitration report in this very periodical said "it was a matter of deep concern" that an abusive editor who had obtained administrator privileges "was able to fool the community for so long". At that time, they were banned by the Arbitration Committee following a long case. We are sad to report that, not only did the abuse not stop in 2015, but the same person managed to obtain a second administrator account, and was just discovered a few days ago.

November 1 case request and startling admission

Beeblebrox opened a request for arbitration against administrator Lourdes on 1 November, claiming misdeeds including administrative blackmail — bullying other less-privileged editors over their votes during a recent request for adminship. With the case request around one day old, on 2 November, the respondent suddenly stated that they are the site-banned former admin, Wifione. The case request was closed as moot following Lourdes' admission.

One of the contributors to the case, Kurtis, asked "Is this an ArbCom case request or an M. Night Shyamalan movie?" Others, like arbitrator Moneytrees in the quote above, were more to-the-point.

Wifione background

If you have read our prior coverage of how the Wifione siteban came to be, amidst allegations of paid editing while holding the admin bit, you can probably skip over this section.

According to the 2015 Arbcom case, the oldest known account used by the individual also known as Wifione was created in 2006. They created dozens of sock accounts, which were revealed by a 2008 checkuser request.

That prior account was later linked to another account called Wifione, which was created in 2009 and that had become a Wikipedia admin in 2010. The Arbitration committee case found that Wifione was engaging in search engine optimization related to an Indian educational firm. Wifione was sitebanned as part of the case resolution.

An admin called "Lourdes"

This long-term abuser created the Lourdes account in late 2015, initially under a different name. In 2016 they renamed the account. They were most active in 2016–17, and ran an unsuccessful, self-nominated request for adminship in early 2017; a second attempt in 2018 was successful with 207 in favor and 3 opposed. The account went mostly unused for 2020 through 2022, with many months of total editorial inactivity, although it continued to perform admin actions. In 2023, they returned to regularly editing the English Wikipedia.

Throughout their tenure, they made 2,282 admin actions, according to User:JamesR/AdminStats.

The arbitration case request filed this month alleged that Lourdes engaged in egregious abuse of their administrator status during a recent request for adminship, including the following:

Because I remember having acted on your complaints at ANI a few times, and on the basis of that connect and support that I gave you, I am requesting you to reconsider your stand
— Lourdes, at the case request

This kind of pressuring (there were other examples) was described by one of the contributors to the case request as "the kind of thinly veiled threat you'd expect to hear in The Godfather". In response, Lourdes gave an admission nobody expected:

I am User:Wifione, the admin who got blocked years ago.

My RL identity has nothing to do with any celebrity or anyone like that. I am not writing this to have any final laugh. It's just that I feel it appropriate to place it here specially for Beeblebrox, who I almost emotionally traumatised over the years with the aforementioned double sleight -- aka, pulling him around for revealing my so-called identity. It also required double-doxxing myself on at least one external project, namely Wikipediocracy, which even placed mentions of my name in the private section to protect my identity.

— Lourdes, at the case request

And blocked themselves indefinitely:

2023-11-01T22:47:55 User:Lourdes (talk | contribs) blocked User:Lourdes (talk | contribs) with an expiration time of indefinite (account creation blocked, email disabled) (Abusing multiple accounts)

All of the details of the request and the statements made there — which arbitrators voted to decline as pointless soon after the revelations and the self-block — can be seen at its last revision link.

Aftermath

Nobody is quite sure what to make of this. How did they get away with this for so long? How did they conceal it this well? How did nobody notice? What was the point of spending years as a productive administrator, making tens of thousands of edits and logging thousands of actions, to implode the whole thing over a pointless argument on an RfA talk page?

The Signpost's sources have confirmed that the particular BADSITE mentioned in Lourdes' final message has indeed discussed this issue, and that both Beeblebrox and the disgraced LTA have posted more about the events, but the thread over there doesn't make a whole lot of sense either.

In short: what?

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[–] echo64@lemmy.world 120 points 10 months ago (3 children)

There is zero chance that there isn't also a third account

[–] Aatube@kbin.social 29 points 10 months ago

technicallythetruth, as way before this fiasco she disclosed 3 accounts used in accordance with WP's alt account policy

[–] topinambour_rex@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] Aatube@kbin.social 5 points 10 months ago
[–] Anonymousllama@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Playing the long con! Tell them about this extra account to throw them off his scent

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 74 points 10 months ago (2 children)

This was a weird and gripping tale of a user who can't stand being not an admin. Why they would dox themselves as the person that earned a previous super-duper ban is bewildering.

[–] PeleSpirit@lemmy.world 42 points 10 months ago

Wikipedia is one of the best, if not the best, free and open internet information sources. I'm not surprised that people are going to go after it like Musk has been.

[–] db2@sopuli.xyz 12 points 10 months ago
[–] amio@kbin.social 63 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

What was the point of spending years as a productive administrator, making tens of thousands of edits and logging thousands of actions, to implode the whole thing over a pointless argument on an RfA talk page?

People do weird things. Mood disorders, (develop-/)mental disorders, personality disorders, extreme cases of having a shitty day, or just being a twat.

What is really fucked up isn't just the meltdown, but the insinuation they did this to fuck with someone else, this Beeblebrox guy. That's not very hoopy.

[–] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 20 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

They need to find their towel, man.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 58 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] Aatube@kbin.social 34 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Bastardized By Yours Truly

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 25 points 10 months ago (15 children)

But why? "Extremely banned", what the fuck?

[–] Darkenfolk@dormi.zone 10 points 10 months ago

Extreme baby! sounds of explosions and massive fireballs

The guy was not just 'perma banned', they rolled out the fucking carpet for him while there was heavy metal playing in the background.

'Extremely banned™' was the closest way to even begin describing how utterly hard the guy was banned.

[–] Aatube@kbin.social 2 points 10 months ago

Also,

Search engine optimisation (finding of fact)

  1. Wifione has edited Wikipedia to the advantage of the IIPM and to the detriment of its competitors, in a manner consistent with attempts to optimise search engine results. (See Jehochman's evidence and Harry Mitchell's analysis.)

    Passed 12 to 0 at 12:11, 2015-02-13 (8 years, 8 months, 25 days ago) (UTC−5)

Sock puppetry

  1. Following a review of Jayen466's evidence and a historic CheckUser result, the Committee considers it likely that User:Wifione is a sockpuppet of User:Empengent, formerly Mrinal Pandey. The User:Wifione account was created and operated while Empengent (talk · contribs) was blocked.

    Passed 10 to 2 at 12:11, 2015-02-13 (8 years, 8 months, 25 days ago) (UTC−5)

Endless disputes

  1. Commentary – varying from constructive criticism to ad hominem remarks – about Wifione has been posted in many forums on many occasions over five years without resolution. Forums include: Wikiquette assistance ([11], [12], [13]); the Administrators' noticeboard, ([14]); the Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents ([15], [16]); Jimmy Wales' talk page ([17], [18], [19], [20]) and Editor review/Wifione [21]).

    Passed 12 to 0 at 12:11, 2015-02-13 (8 years, 8 months, 25 days ago) (UTC−5)

Basically notorious.

[–] mojo@lemm.ee 0 points 10 months ago

It means banned but like giga banned

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[–] raptir@lemdro.id 14 points 10 months ago

I love that you take ownership of your mistakes. I'll be putting this in your annual review.

[–] littlewonder@lemmy.world 50 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This is making me miss the hobbydrama sub. I love this petty shit.

[–] idealotus@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

Was thinking the same thing. I'd read a lengthy diatribe about Wiki drama (again).

[–] Rustmilian@lemmy.world 44 points 10 months ago (1 children)

He's just a mentally ill attention seaker and probably has some form of obsessive disorder. He'll be back, there's no doubt.

[–] localhost443@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Wonder how many reddit subs this person 'moderates'

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[–] Usernameblankface@lemmy.world 27 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Is it the same person who runs awkwardtheturtle account?

Sorry to anyone who had their PTSD triggered by seeing that username

[–] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 17 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Everybody who isn't you, is Unidan.

[–] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 20 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

You just reminded me that everyone on reddit is a bot. Which... is getting closer to the actual truth these days.

[–] SARGEx117@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

Here's the thing...

[–] Solarius@lemmy.sdf.org 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I've had personal experience dealing with them and they're by far the worst and most narcissistic individual I've had the displeasure of interacting with.

[–] BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What's their deal? I never paid much mind to that whole side of reddit when I was on there. They just modded a bunch of subs or something right?

[–] Usernameblankface@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

They modded several subs, including r/advice and /offmychest. They were incredibly touchy and prone to calling people stupid for not understanding their convoluted rules. I got banned for responding to a post that they deemed to be on the wrong sub. They didn't have time to create a copy-paste to redirect people to what they thought was a more appropriate sub, but they did have time to write individual replies about how stupid I am and how I should have learned (not to question them, I guess?)

[–] BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

Yikes, that's peak reddit right there

[–] monsieur_jean@kbin.social 11 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Makes me think, how many fediverse accounts has awkwardtheturtle created yet? How many instances are run on his servers? :D

[–] frickineh@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

Are there enough of us here to give them the attention/drama they clearly crave?

[–] sour@kbin.social 4 points 10 months ago

does awkwardtheturtle know about the fediverse

[–] Lols@lemm.ee 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

this is an extraordinarily terrible title

[–] Aatube@kbin.social 0 points 10 months ago
[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I mean I thought something wasn't right, a lot of Articles have been rather sus lately

[–] Aatube@kbin.social 5 points 10 months ago

🧐🧐

which articles? talk about them on their article talk pages

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Can you share the discussion thread? I’m not going to bother making an account on a forum I’ve never heard of.

[–] Aatube@kbin.social 0 points 10 months ago

Made an account just for you. Here's the first page.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago
[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Whack if truthfull

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