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[–] jet@hackertalks.com 67 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This demonstrates why open, federated, censorship resistant platforms are necessary for a healthy world wide population.

Love them or hate them, voices silenced are voices oppressed.

[–] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes it's only a matter of time before Hasbara operatives try to suppress pro Palestinian voices on here. They've already taken over Reddit.

[–] fubo@lemmy.world 50 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You can't be pro-Palestine if you're not anti-Hamas.

Remember, Netanyahu is pro-Hamas because he knows Hamas is bad for Palestinians.

[–] ramble81@lemm.ee 24 points 1 year ago

Sadly this is turning into one of those “I support the troops, but I don’t support the war” moments. People just hear “pro-Palestinian people” and immediately think “omg, you support Hamas and terrorists!”

[–] superguy@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I dunno. This just seems like one of those stupid talking points that sounds clever on the surface but when you actually think about it, it's dumb as hell.

Like, are you really stupid enough to believe Hamas would sabotage any legitimate chance of getting Jews out of Israel because they prefer Gazans to be oppressed? Nah. They'd rather be in control of Israel.

Unfortunately, the snowball effect has already taken hold, so those who can't think for themselves will just parrot what you're saying without second thought in order to fit in.

[–] atk007@lemmy.world 44 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Duh. This censoring is why antisemitic conspiracy theories take hold in the first place. I understand moderation, but if you flag any discussion that goes against mainstream narrative as extremist, all that is left is an echo chamber. It's right out of 1984 playbook. I am wondering how long before Lemmy will be called an antisemitic platform for even posting news like that?

[–] Gazumi@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago
[–] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

Case in point both Instagram and X have removed the account of @eyeonPalestine

Website for reference: https://www.eyeonpalestine.ps/eye-on/index.html

[–] quindraco@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago

Once you start making social media platforms legally liable for the contents of their users' posts, this is what will always happen. E.g. this state of affairs appears to be the express purpose of Canadian law. I don't know why anyone is surprised.

If you want free speech, you have to stop punishing the courier who delivers messages you don't like.

[–] Ordoabchao@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would have thought the answer to that was obvious? Of course they are.

[–] reddit_sux@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pro-palestine posts are anti-semetic don't you./s

[–] superguy@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Anyone else find it weird how it's not okay to be anti-semetic, but it's okay to be: anti-Chinese, anti-Russian, and anti-muslim?

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Bigoted hypocrites seldom realize they're bigoted or hypocrites. At least not in any meaningful way. There were a shitload of them before this attack. Why so surprised they all have the wrong opinion? It's exactly what they always do: blame the victim.

These are the people that ask, "well what was she wearing?" after someone gets SA'd...

[–] reddit_sux@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

You can be anti war crimes without being anti semetic, or anti Russian, or anti China. You can be anti terrorist without being anti Muslim. You needn't be a bigot.

[–] nonailsleft@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] superguy@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Yes, even encouraged.

[–] boredtortoise@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

What's the opposite of Betteridge's law

[–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago

Worseflat's law?

[–] Erika2rsis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Egdiretteb's law, obviously

[–] assassinatedbyCIA@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Egdiretteb’s crime

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 5 points 1 year ago

Rhetorical Bait