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The officer claims she didn't realize a whole train was coming when she left a woman handcuffed in a parked police car.

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[–] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 86 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Like when one ACCIDENTALLY leaves their wallet at home, or ACCIDENTALLY forgets to turn the porch light on, or ACCIDENTALLY beats their wife unconscious. Y'know, things we all have in common with cops, right??

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[–] magnetosphere@kbin.social 43 points 1 year ago (2 children)

In her testimony, Steinke claims that she didn’t realize the car was sitting on the tracks until it was too late.

This is definitely someone I would trust with a gun.

[–] PoliticalAgitator@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago (5 children)

It's America. They trust baaically anybody with basically any gun.

The Ulvade shooter was a teenager, with a history of sending death and rape threats, who earned the nickname "school shooter" after abusing a dead cat.

He bought two semi-automatic rifles from a company that markets to young, internet connected edgelords, posted pictures of them to social media, then used them to mutilate a room full of children beyond recognition.

The pro-gun crowd rushed to blame the police but the reality is that police and hypothetical "good guns" can only react to shootings, meaning its always going to be too late for someone.

Which is why braver police at Sandy Hook were too late to save anyone, despite being on the scene and breaching within minutes.

It's a pattern repeated over and over again. Look up the history of a mass shooter 3 months after their act, when their history is known, and its usually the same story; a parade of red flags, often far-right and radicalised online and deeply damaged and not shy about it.

People capable of these acts are not just normal people (and legal gun owners) who wake up broken one day and decide to see if murdering children and minorities fixes it. People could already tell they were dangerous.

But if you ask those pro-gun cultists what they'd have changed, it's never the guns.

They're genuinely more upset by the idea of waiting 6 months for a gun -- something routine in the rest of the world -- than they are by children dying terrified and screaming on their classroom floor.

After blaming video games and rap music didn't work, they've finally opted for "mental health" and while it sounds reasonable on the surface, it's no less bullshit.

It's not at all reasonable to insist that America fixes the mental health problems of every man, woman and child in America, for free, no matter how deeply violent, curing them to a degree far beyond the most cutting edge medical treatments available, with no relapses ever, in less time and with less effort to the patient than buying a gun and doing a murder suicide.

All so it's safer to indiscrimately sell the public guns.

I hope Lemmy communities don't give give them space. They're propaganda spreading, self-absorbed scum.

(P.S: Sorry for hitting you with this rant but I know I'm going to have to copy and paste bits of it 100 times on Lenmy, so I may as well get it all out now)

[–] magnetosphere@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

Don’t be sorry. You frustration is 100% reasonable.

[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Those same people also tend to oppose using public money to pay for mental health treatment, or really any programs to improve the lives of people with mental health issues or other problems that can lead to breakdowns. Best they can think of is prison, which is very expensive for the government, but that’s always fine for some reason.

[–] Hyggyldy@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

There's people who actually believe that literally everyone should have a gun at all times. I expect to see actual deification of guns by the end of the decade.

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[–] agitatedpotato@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I wouldn't trust her even with desk duty and safety scissors.

[–] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Steinke faces a felony charge for criminal attempt to commit manslaughter...

How can you have “attempted” manslaughter? I thought one of the defining characteristics of manslaughter is that there isn’t a deliberate intent to kill.

[–] Mic_Check_One_Two@reddthat.com 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s probably specific to the jurisdiction. For instance, some states consider assault and battery to be two different things, whereas other states call them assault and aggravated assault instead. So in those states you’d be charged with aggravated assault instead of being charged with battery. But they both mean the same thing in the end.

[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Specifically, in some states 3rd degree murder is manslaughter and vice versa.

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[–] Salad_Fries@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If her excuse was “i didnt know i parked my car on the tracks”, she needs to have her drivers license confiscated. Someone with such little awareness of their surroundings has no business operating heavy machinery (car), let alone the responsibilities of her job.

[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

How could someone get out of a car and walk away without noticing railroad tracks?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

They couldn't. ACAB.

[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

She would not have even have had to leave the car. The railroad crossing signs are very obviously visible. And unless she had the most amazing shocks ever, she probably felt the very bumpy tracks when she went over them.

[–] SomeoneElse@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

she didn’t realise a whole train was coming.

So just a carriage or two would have been fine.

[–] JustAManOnAToilet@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Well surely one of those mine cart things being operated by a monkey in red velvet would've been ok.

[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 28 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I can't conceive of being a police officer, "accidentally" parking someone on a train track, by some miracle not getting them killed, and then thinking to myself that I should continue to be a police officer.

[–] winterayars@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can't help but think of Adachi in Persona 4 going "I only became a cop so I could carry a gun. You'd be surprised how many police officers are the same way."

Except you don't need to be a cop to carry a gun in the US...

Easier to get away with illegal activities though

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Colorado cop who left man shackled to table in the path of an industrial laser beam says it was an accident. Officer Goldfinger claims he didn't realize the machine was on.

[–] Mikey_donuts@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm surprised the woman even survived.

[–] stopthatgirl7@kbin.social 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I really don't think they were expecting her to.

[–] AnarchoGravyBoat@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

Aww c'mon now, it was just a little whoopsie-doodle! We all make mistakes! Surely, it's not fair to hold those who enforce the violence of the state upon the rest of us to the same standard we hold regular people to!

[–] snor10@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago

We're sowwy.

[–] blazera@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

There are an insane number of factors making it impossible for this to be anything other than an intentional murder attempt.

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[–] aeternum@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

aww. she said it was an accident. better let her go now. Would wanna have cops be accountable now would we.

[–] Xeelee@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

This calls for the harshest possible punishment! I think two weeks of administrative leave should do it.

[–] buckykat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah, did she have a mustache that she twirled?

[–] Kichae@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Officer Whiplash reporting for duty!

[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Was the fucking railroad crossing sign not a clue that there may have been train tracks?

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