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I'm immediately sceptical to the idea of ruining even more areas of nature than we already are, but at the same time I recognise that if we want to build feasible green energy and storage, we need rare-earth metals and heavy metals. This might be a good alternative to massive deforestation.

Since the article is paywalled:

Pushed by the threat of climate change, rich countries are embarking on a grand electrification project. Britain, France and Norway, among others, plan to ban the sale of new internal-combustion cars. Even where bans are not on the statute books, electric-car sales are growing rapidly. Power grids are changing too, as wind turbines and solar panels displace fossil-fuelled power plants. The International Energy Agency (iea) reckons the world will add as much renewable power in the coming five years as it did in the past 20.

All that means batteries, and lots of them—both to propel the cars and to store energy from intermittent renewable power stations. Demand for the minerals from which those batteries are made is soaring. Nickel in particular is in short supply. The element is used in the cathodes of high-quality electric-car batteries to boost capacity and cut weight. The iea calculates that, if it is to meet its decarbonisation goals, the world will need to be producing 6.3m tonnes of nickel a year by 2040, roughly double what it managed in 2022. That adds up to some 80m tonnes of nickel in total between now and then.

Over the past five years most of the growth in demand has been met by Indonesia, which has been bulldozing rainforests to get at the ore beneath. In 2017 the country produced just 17% of the world’s nickel, according to cru, a metals research firm. Today it is responsible for around half, or 1.6m tonnes a year, and that number is rising. cru thinks Indonesia will account for 85% of production growth between now and 2027. Even so, that is unlikely to be enough to meet rising demand. And as Indonesian nickel production increases, it is expected to replace palm-oil production as the primary cause of deforestation in the country.

But there is an alternative. A patch of Pacific Ocean seabed called the Clarion-Clipperton Zone (ccz) is dotted with trillions of potato-sized lumps of nickel, cobalt, manganese and copper, all of which are of interest to battery-makers (see map). Collectively the nodules hold an estimated 340m tonnes of nickel alone—more than three times the United States Geological Survey’s estimate of the world’s land-based reserves. Companies have been keen to mine them for several years. With the coming expiry, on July 9th, of an international bureaucratic deadline, that prospect looks more likely than ever.

It’s better down where it’s wetter That date marks two years since the island nation of Nauru, on behalf of a mining company it sponsors called The Metals Company (tmc), told the International Seabed Authority (isa), an appendage of the United Nations, that it wanted to mine a part of the ccz to which it has been granted access. That triggered a requirement for the isa to complete rules on commercial use of the deposits. If those regulations are not ready by July 9th—and it seems they will not be—then the isa is required to “consider and provisionally approve” tmc’s application. (The firm itself says it hopes to wait until rules can be agreed.)

tmc’s plan is about as straightforward as underwater mining can be. Its first target is a patch of the ccz called nori-d, which covers about 2.5m hectares of ocean floor (an area about 20% bigger than Wales). Gerard Barron, tmc’s boss, estimates there are about 3.8m tonnes of nickel in the area. Since the nodules are simply sitting on the bottom of the ocean, the firm plans to send a large robot to the seabed to hoover them up. The gathered nodules will then be sucked up to a support ship on the surface through a high-tech pipe, similar to ones used in the oil-and-gas industry. Mr Barron says that his firm can break even on nodule collection at nickel prices as low as $6,000 per tonne; nickel currently sells for about $22,000 per tonne.

The support ship will wash off any sediment, then offload the nodules to a second ship which will ferry them back to shore for processing. The surplus sediment, meanwhile, will be released back into the sea at a depth of around 1,500 metres, far below most ocean life. And tmc is not the only firm interested. A Belgian firm called Global Sea Mineral Resources—a subsidiary of Deme, a dredging giant—is also keen, and has tested a sea-floor robot and riser system similar to tmc’s. Three Chinese firms—Beijing Pioneer, China Merchants and China Minmetals—are circling too, though they are reckoned to be further behind technologically.

As with mining on land, taking nickel from the sea will damage the surrounding ecosystem. Although the ccz is deep, dark and cold, it is not lifeless. tmc’s robot will destroy many organisms it drives across, as well as any that live on the nodules it collects. It will also kick up plumes of sediment, some of which will drift onto nearby organisms and kill them (though research suggests the plumes tend not to rise more than two metres above the seabed).

Adrian Glover, a marine biologist at the Natural History Museum in London, points out that, because life evolved first in the oceans and only later moved to the land, the majority of the genetic diversity on the planet is still found underwater. Although the deep-ocean floor is dark and nutrient-poor, it nevertheless supports thousands of unique species. Most are microbes, but there are also worms, sponges and other invertebrates. The diversity of life is “very high”, says Dr Glover.

Yet in several respects, mining the seabed has a smaller environmental footprint than mining in Indonesia. The harsh deep-sea environment means that, although its inhabitants may be highly diverse, they are not very abundant. A paper published in Nature in 2016 found that a given square metre of ccz supports between one and two living organisms, weighing a couple of grams at most. A square metre of Indonesian rainforest, by contrast, contains about 30,000 grams of plant biomass alone, and plenty more if you weigh up primates, birds, reptiles and insects too.

But it is not enough to simply weigh the biomass in each ecosystem. The amount of nickel that can be produced per hectare is also relevant. The 2.5m hectares of seabed that tmc hopes to exploit is expected to yield about 3.8m tonnes of nickel, or about 1.5 tonnes per hectare.

Getting hard numbers for land-based mining is tricky, for the firms that do it are less transparent than those hoping to mine the seabed. But investigative reporting from the Pulitzer Centre, a non-profit media outlet, suggests each hectare of rainforest on Sulawesi, the Indonesian island at the centre of the country’s nickel industry, will produce around 675 tonnes of nickel. (One reason land deposits produce so much more nickel, despite the lower quality of the ore, is because the ore extends far beneath the surface, whereas nodules exist only on the seabed.)

All that makes a very rough comparison possible. Around 13 kilograms of biomass would be lost for every tonne of ccz nickel mined. Each tonne mined on Sulawesi would destroy around 450kg of plants alone—plus an unknown amount of animal biomass, too.

Pick your poison There are other environmental arguments in favour of mining the seabed. The nodules contain much higher concentrations of metal than deposits on land, which means less energy is required to process them. Peter Tom Jones, the director of the ku Leuven Institute for Sustainable Metals and Materials, in Belgium, reckons that processing the nodules will produce about 40% less greenhouse-gas emissions than those from terrestrial ore.

And because the nodules must be taken away for processing anyway, companies like tmc can be encouraged to choose places where energy comes with low emissions. Indonesian nickel ore, in contrast, is uneconomic unless it is processed near where it was mined. That almost always means using electricity from coal plants or diesel generators. Alex Laugharne, an analyst at cru, reckons Indonesian nickel production emits about 60 tonnes of carbon dioxide for each tonne of nickel. An audit of tmc’s plans carried out by Benchmark Minerals Intelligence, a firm based in London, found that each tonne of nickel harvested from the seabed would produce about six tonnes of co2.

In any case, metal collected from the seabed is unlikely to entirely replace that mined from the rainforest. Battery production is growing so fast that nickel will probably be dug up from wherever it can be found. But if the ocean nodules can be brought to market affordably, the sheer volume of metal available may start to ease the pressure on Indonesian forests. The arguments are unlikely to stay theoretical for long. Mr Barron of tmc aims to start producing nickel and other metals from the seabed by the end of next year.

Correction (July 6th 2023): An earlier version of this piece said global nickel production would need to reach 48m tonnes per year by 2040, and would total 320m tonnes by 2040. The correct figures are 6.3m tonnes and 80m tonnes. Apologies for the error.

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[–] barttier@feddit.de 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think there are three main problems, that aren't considered properly:

  1. Deep sea mining is not intended and will not replace mining on the surface. If anything we will mine more cheaper and with additional impact on the environment.
  2. The deep sea and the ecological environment remains widely unknown. We could be attacking species we don't even know and kill animals, that are essential for ecosystems. If we take the nodules we also take the only solid ground in this muddy depths we know so far. Which leads to my third problem -
  3. The amount of time those species need to grow is gigantic. Everything is slower with reduced sunlight, so is growth. You simply can compare the ocean ground with forest in that it takes up to or even more than thousand years (estimated) to regrow. Some squid species need 4 years just to breed their eggs. Microbiology is slowed down just as dramatically. This leads to the assumption that we won't kill for regrowing, but for good. Deep sea mining robots might cut dead strips into the ocean that will never recover.

I completely understand the economic argument and the worldwide hunger for resources, but money can't be the final answer and reason for our actions especially when will still don't use the current resources like we value them.

Also reasoning with environmental issues, like the need of rare elements sounds really counterintuitive considering we "kill ecosystems to protect them?"

If we would really care for the environment we would recycle, but we want this materials cheap and that is the only reason we try to get this working.

[–] thebestaquaman@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I agree with almost everything you're writing here, but want to point out one thing:

If we would really care for the environment we would recycle (...)

Recycling alone isn't enough right now, because we are drastically changing the make-up of the things we build. If we want to increase the total battery capacity of the world, or the fraction of buildings made using aluminium, or whatever else, we need to extract more of it. Of course we need to recycle everything we extract, and at some point there may be enough of these materials in circulation that we can rely only on recycling. But at the moment, the amount in circulation is quite small, and the demand is huge, because we are in the middle of a turnover in what materials we need.

Also, for your first point: It's true that deep sea mining is not intended to replace mining on the surface, but it is also true that effective deep sea mining could make it unfeasible (not profitable) to mine a lot of places on the surface.

As I wrote: I am inherently sceptical to this, but I think it would be foolish to not investigate the opportunity, to see if we could actually do some good by engaging in it. (Edit:) Investigating these kind of opportunities is also a good way of determining what we should definitely avoid, this may be one of those things. Until we investigate, we can't be sure what the best course of action is.

It's been investigated already. In 1989 Germany conducted nodule harvesting experiments off the coast of Peru. The tracks that were left by the rover are still there.

Deep sea mining does irreparable damage to sea floor ecosystems. Sea sponges use those nodules that take millions of years to form as anchor points on the sea bed. Everything else around them is loose sediment. And deep sea octopi use them for breeding.

https://youtu.be/73mXXJpEjRI

[–] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 year ago

money can’t be the final answer and reason for our actions especially when will still don’t use the current resources like we value them.

This is it. We need to radically rethink why we produce anything and what we should be using our precious resources on. For too long it's been too easy for the profit-seekers to say, 'I don't care about this village or that ecosystem; how much money can I make if I destroy everything?' It can't continue.

[–] HTCPCP508@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

New biological deserts incoming, no idea how it will impact what's left of life in the ocean but we were about to fuck it anyway by overfishing so yeah ... whatever. I'm just tired of these fake rationales. Let's admit no one, not even green parties, is ready to pay the price of sustainable economics. We are heading on the RCP 'business as usual' scenario.

[–] xuxebiko@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We've fucked up the land and now we want to fuck up the oceans.

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nah, we fucked up the oceans, too. Now we want to fuck up the ocean floor.

[–] xuxebiko@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[–] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's amazing the lengths we will go to avoid building railways and improving the bus service.

It's also interesting that Belgians are described as keen but Chinese as 'circling'. Giving the impression that the Chinese are sharks for wanting to do the exact same thing as Anglo-Europeans. This is how racist tropes are formed and maintained.

[–] thebestaquaman@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm impressed that you are able to see racism in that choice of words. If someone is "keen" I read that as them being positively interested and actively looking into possibilities of starting up, while if someone is "circling" I read that as them observing and considering, but in a more held-back manner.

Also: Nowhere did anyone say that this is a replacement for rail or better public transport. In fact, adequate access to a bunch of metals would make it much easier to build sustainable and efficient rail and public transport. It's possible to pursue several things at the same time...

[–] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago

If this was a one off, I'd entirely agree. But the choice selection of negative descriptors for anyone living outside the Anglo-European garden is incessant. So much so that it's normalised.

To the extent that an article can use a word like circling to describe Chinese people in relation to the ocean so at to conjure up an image of sharks, and people will say, 'you're jumping at shadows; it's just an innocent description'. This process is one of many that is used to perpetuate racism.

You posted an article about the need to mine for the materials used in car batteries, which are in increasingly high demand:

Demand for the minerals from which those batteries are made is soaring. Nickel in particular is in short supply. The element is used in the cathodes of high-quality electric-car batteries to boost capacity and cut weight.

Regardless, even if the article had not spoken of car batteries, the point still stands. Because one of the main factors in the notion of infinite expansion of mining is a political economy based on exponential growth. And this includes the exponential growth of the number of cars in use. Which is unsustainable. It would be fixed almost immediately by emphasizing maintainable and repairable public transport infrastructure.

Mining cannot be separated from the broader political economy. In the current political economy, public transport is far down the list of priorities. Thus it is erroneous to claim that the article does not concern another attempt to continue business as usual. Even if, I agree,

It’s possible to pursue several things at the same time…

Because that is not what is being discussed by the people who are writing about and doing the mining. Except, maybe, those Chinese miners, considering China's phenomenal growth in HSR networks, unmatched and unseen anywhere else in the world except where China is building infrastructure.

[–] MaxVoltage@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

we absolutely do not need to use rare earth metalz lol. lithium and cobalt are just as easily profitable and able to be exploited as oil, by capitalist so it is used.

Graphite batteries would be the most common thing except carbon is everywhere and can not be capitalized

[–] thebestaquaman@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We definitely need rare earth metals, I'm not only talking about batteries.

You want green hydrogen production? Good luck making it feasible without catalytic electrodes that require rare earth metals.

You want food? That requires fertiliser, which is much less energy intensive to produce with catalysers containing rare earth metals.

You want modern electronics (other than batteries)? You guessed it: Rare earth metals.

Reducing the use of rare earth metals, and getting better at recycling them is something a lot of people are spending a lot of time researching, but as of now we definitely need them.

[–] MaxVoltage@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

why would i need hydrogen whsn i can grow ethanol?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Because burning ethanol produces greenhouse gases?

In simple terms, a battery has four major components: cathode, anode, separator and electrolyte. A lot of discussion focuses around the cathode side: the lithium, cobalt, nickel, manganese, etc. The anode side is not that remarkable. That’s almost entirely made of graphite, sometimes a combination of natural and synthetic graphite, and in rare cases, there’ll be a tiny amount of silicon doping

https://chargedevs.com/features/a-closer-look-at-graphite-its-forms-functions-and-future-in-ev-batteries/

In simple terms, a battery has four major components: cathode, anode, separator and electrolyte. A lot of discussion focuses around the cathode side: the lithium, cobalt, nickel, manganese, etc. The anode side is not that remarkable. That’s almost entirely made of graphite, sometimes a combination of natural and synthetic graphite, and in rare cases, there’ll be a tiny amount of silicon doping

https://chargedevs.com/features/a-closer-look-at-graphite-its-forms-functions-and-future-in-ev-batteries/

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