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Fallout 4 Fans Are Begging Bethesda To Stop Updating The Game (kotaku.com)

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[–] Rikj000@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

My "nExT gEn" update experience:

Get baited to re-play Fallout 4 through the new TV show + Next Gen update
Be disappointed since the graphics aged like milk + Official HD texture DLC sucks
Be disappointed since the update broke nearly all mod support
Roll back to the release before the Next Gen update + Uninstall the Official HD texture DLC
Install 205 mods, and happily play with nearly everything in 4K

FYI, most mods I installed are from:

The Midnight Ride:
https://themidnightride.moddinglinked.com/
ESO-UI High End:
https://eso-ui.com/fallout4-high-end/

[–] deeves@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Reason #150 on why Fallout New Vegas is the best Fallout:

Bethesda despises it so much that it'll never get an update, remaster, or get repacked into an anniversary edition.

No Todds, No Masters

[–] CloutAtlas@hexbear.net 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Todd Howard: we hear you fans, we are currently working on updates for Morrowind, Starfield and Elder Scrolls Online which will break add-on/mod support and ruin the frame rate for those games instead of just FO4!

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

The updates will continue until the free modications stop getting updated.

[–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 month ago

ITT: techbros white-knighting for M$FT and BGS so hard that I genuinely believe their fathers might be Xbox Ones

[–] paultimate14@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago

In this entire article, not even a single attempt to quantity the number of complaints.

This sounds to me like an extremely small minority. It appears as though Fallout 4 has sold over 25 million copies, and there's.... Maybe a couple dozen people on the Internet complaining?

[–] ethanolparty@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Skyrim Fans:

[–] NoSpiritAnimal@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago

Console skyrim mod enjoyers are weeping having to re-download 75 mods because Todd liked the word Creations more.

[–] rustyfish@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah I know, the show came out and everyone is hyped because of that. But maybe put those resources into fixing shit in Starfield?

[–] Prox@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Starfield can't be fixed. The game's issues are rooted in its core - procedurally generated maps, zero-consequence writing, forgettable gunplay. They could fix stuff like base building, giving it an actual purpose, for example. But in order to make exploration and role playing interesting/fun they'd have to effective make a whole new game.

[–] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm still optimistic. No Man's Sky, Cyberpunk, and Fallout 76 took their heaping trash and glued things until it became fun. And Starfield has a lot of really good working pieces that can be salvaged.

But you might also be right. I can't imagine Bethesda fixing quests or narrative elements.

[–] arefx@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Cyberpunk had a good story and characters, and basis for a game it just was rushed lut the door unfinished. They actually care about making No Man's Sky better and delivering on their initial promise, then surpassing it when they initially failed and let everyone down. Bethesda doesn't care. They just want money. They aren't going to even consider making starfield a good game unless They add an atom shop first and stuff to spend the money on

[–] pete_the_cat@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So, they're giving it the Skyrim treatment. I think it's received about 10 version updates since AE launched like 2 years ago. I ended up downloading a modlist that was 1.5.97 (the original version of Skyrim SE) and ended up sticking with it since it's future proofed.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 month ago

1.6 mods are also stable now, but of course Bethesda shits out the patches every now and then so you need to downgrade anyway, just to 1.6.

[–] wiccan2@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This is starting to feel like their way of blocking Fallout London from releasing indefinitely.

[–] BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

bethesda has historically hated mods and the people who make them. its why their games have such a small modding scene

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Well the updates to Skyrim, Fallout and lack of modding tools for Starfield seems to indicate that it is now a reality. I seriously cannot fathom why they would sabotage themselves like that. It's absolutely obvious since at least Oblivion that mods are lifeline and reason for success of Bethesda rpg games yet here we are.

[–] Phoenix3875@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

My gut feeling is that the procedural generation thing in Startfield somehow absorbs some people's need for mods.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

No, not really. After Starfield released mod scene EXPLODED capital letters, there were hundred new mods every day. However, without proper tools 95% of those mods are very simple reskins and modders got burned out and bored on this fast. Now we are 8 months after release with still no tools and that enthusiasm is largely gone. Part of it will still be back, but the best moment to establish a vibrant mod community has passed.

[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I mean, I get it, I do, I love modding... But can't they just not upgrade or even downpatch?

[–] biribiri11@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It’s not that they can’t, it’s that people are getting blindsided by updates to a game which supposedly hasn’t received updates for over half a decade, and downgrading on Steam is a surprisingly huge PITA. The Midnight Ride recommends patching, fwiw.

[–] away2thestars@programming.dev 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

How can you even downgrade on steam?

[–] a_wild_mimic_appears@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago

you download the corresponding depots using the console / steamcmd. Here's the process using the console.

[–] biribiri11@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

Most tutorials I can find involve enabling the steam cli, then using steamdb to look up the “depots” of previous versions and downloading the old update in chunks, then unpacking and copying the old game files to your install location. Not exactly convenient.