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[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 45 points 6 months ago (2 children)

This is why I shake my head when people say the US should just “cut our losses” because “Ukraine can’t win”. Even presuming that’s right, this is all still hardware that Russia can’t use on NATO member states or in the Caucuses and Central Asia.

[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 26 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The people saying that are Russian shills so you can simply roll your eyes and ignore them.

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago

I wish it was as simple as that, but I’ve heard it from actual voters in real life. It’s the line right wing media is pushing, after all.

[–] FleetingTit@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

Russia is also using up stocks of other "enemys of the global west" (for lack of a better umbrella term) like Iran, North Korea, and to some extent China.

[–] eran_morad@lemmy.world 43 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Fuck russia, including the republican traitor filth.

[–] cuppaconcrete@aussie.zone 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Specifically, fuck the Russian government and Putin in particular - who are already fucking Russia up more than any one else could.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

The competition consists of tsars, the Soviet leadership, and Yeltsin.

Russia's had kind of a rough run with leaders.

[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 23 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That is seriously awesome, I've read that they only had 6 or 8 of these things in total & they were a good $300M to build back when Russia could easily get the parts.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 16 points 6 months ago (2 children)

they only had 6 or 8 of these things in total

They also aren't all simultaneously operational.

[–] Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world 15 points 6 months ago

Yeah I think the estimate was 2 or 3 were fully mission ready. So they could effectively be down to 0

[–] teamevil@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

Well of course not Ukraine keeps shooting them out of the sky.

[–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 22 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Russia, where planes become boats, boats become submarines, and submarines become tombs.

[–] ArmyTiger@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Last submarine became a fireplace.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] bizzle@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Long Pig barbecue

[–] tal@lemmy.today 3 points 6 months ago

planes become boats

I believe that this one hit land near the water, rather than in it.

[–] Wilshire@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)
[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

So considerate of Russia to send it over at night, so Ukrainians could get the full firework effect 🥰🎇

[–] mr_robot2938@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Anyone know what the series of explosions are? Flares, then a final explosion when the missile hit?

[–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Those are flares to distract the missile. Looks like one flare was hit before the aircraft.

[–] mihies@kbin.social 3 points 6 months ago (3 children)

But why flares, aren't those radar guided missiles? Or perhaps they switch to IR once close to target or they have combined guidance?

[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Flares and chaff are often launched at the same time. The flares should attract ir guided munitions and the chaff should attract radar guided munitions.

Also,

aren't those radar guided missiles?

Personally, I can't read the serial number on it from that video, so I can't really say.

[–] cuppaconcrete@aussie.zone 3 points 6 months ago

Yeah they would have been releasing chaff and flares, you just can't see the chaff in the dark

[–] ElCanut@jlai.lu 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Seems completely repairable to me

[–] groupofcrows@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 months ago

Just needs a new coat of paint.

[–] Xia@jlai.lu 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Good ! Fuck Russia. Slava Ukraini

[–] mellowheat@suppo.fi 7 points 6 months ago
[–] Colour_me_triggered@lemm.ee 5 points 6 months ago
[–] FleetingTit@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

Ukraine is effectively reducing the operational capabilities of Russia, one plane/tank/vessel at a time.