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A Washington state senator was arrested at the airport in Hong Kong and charged with possession of an unregistered firearm, his office said.

Sen. Jeff Wilson, R-Longview, was detained at Hong Kong International Airport on Friday night after he found a pistol in his carry-on bag and reported it to customs officials.

He was released on bail Sunday and faces a hearing Oct. 30.

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[–] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 200 points 11 months ago (4 children)

he passed through security at the airport in Portland, Oregon, where it was not detected by baggage screeners.

Tonight on TSA's security theatre

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 33 points 11 months ago (2 children)

As long as you can buy all the ingredients to build an IED from the duty-free shop after the screening, you'll know how much TSA's "security" is worth.

[–] GombeenSysadmin@feddit.uk 32 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Had a razor taken off me at security. Went through, bought a magazine with the same one taped to the cover as a free gift

[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What's ironic here is that this isn't a matter of incompetence, it's a matter of efficiency. There isn't much of a threat of hijacking airplanes, and there never has been. It's just that after 9/11 the spectacle of that even has caused the average person to overestimate the threat of terrorism in airports by several orders of magnitude. Therefore, while we're in no more danger than we were on 09/10/2001, people believe that there is a danger and if someone doesn't perform security, they won't fly. So, in order to appease these people who don't actually understand the situation but have the power to affect it, we all have to go through a little dance that's designed to look very much like security. Take your shoes off. Throw out your water bottle. Has anyone asked you to put anything in your bag for them? Put your shoes back on. Take your shoes back off. 95% of weapons in carry-on luggage make it through TSA screening and onto the plane. Put your shoes back on. Take your belt off.

[–] ShunkW@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

To be fair, the number of incidents was much higher in the 60s and 70s. Usually in the high 60s low 70s oddly enough, per year. Not really relevant nowadays, but an interesting fact.

[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 15 points 11 months ago

https://fee.org/articles/tsa-fails-95-of-the-time/

An internal investigation of the Transportation Security Administration revealed security failures at dozens of the nation’s busiest airports, where undercover investigators were able to smuggle mock explosives or banned weapons through checkpoints in 95 percent of trials, ABC News has learned.

In one test an undercover agent was stopped after setting off an alarm at a magnetometer, but TSA screeners failed to detect a fake explosive device that was taped to his back during a follow-on pat down.

[–] sramder@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

And yet my hands get swapped 10 years later for bringing a pair of sumo robots in my luggage.

[–] IamSparticles@lemmy.zip 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Can't tell you how many times my bag has been flagged because of my fucking Kindle.

[–] sramder@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

LOL they just pick on a few of us so we spread the word that they're vigilant.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

My bag is almost always flagged because almost every flight I am on is for work travel and I have my tools in it. I found stuff gets stolen less often if I put a checklist on the top. At least by America. The Canadian security stole a whole mess of cables as well as the checklist.

[–] BeMoreCareful@lemdro.id 2 points 10 months ago

I know federal Congress doesn't have to go through airport security. I'm guessing it's the same for state?

[–] kowcop@aussie.zone 64 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Australian here.. I have never actually touched a handgun, in fact, I have never seen a handgun with my eyeballs outside of police/security.. it is weird how casual this seems

[–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 63 points 11 months ago

“Woops, got so many firearms I didn’t even notice one was misplaced into my bag”

And americans think that’s normal

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 38 points 11 months ago (5 children)

"I'm a responsible gun owner!" say every irresponsible gun owners.

Fuck the USA and its constitution, it even becomes an issue the next country over because idiots get their firearms stolen and they make their way to Canada so gang members can shoot each other and kill bystanders at the same time.

[–] mondo_brondo@lemmy.world 35 points 11 months ago

There are a lot of us here that would like to change things.

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 16 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

I used to work at a place where a guy would bring his guns in his truck to work every day.

To work in sales in an office in an industrial estate.

They were locked in that metal case in the back of his Ram, but if you were robbing a truck isn't that the first place you'd look? I also am willing to bet they weren't disassembled, cased, ammo separate either.

[–] Birdie@thelemmy.club 12 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I'm older than most of y'all, 70. In high school, it was not unusual to have the student parking lot filled with pickup trucks...most of which had shot guns on gun racks hanging on the back window.

It's so weird to think about that now, how very normal it seemed at the time.

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

My older buddy tells me about how he used to bring his rifle on the school bus because he was on the high school shooting team. In and of itself, I don't think anyone can say such a change is either good or bad, just that the culture is different, as it always is after as many years.

[–] remotelove@lemmy.ca 5 points 11 months ago

Same for me. I have been around guns most of my life and seeing them in trucks was very common. Hell, me and my friends all owned .22's at a minimum and nobody cared when we wanted to go shooting. Where I grew up it was just... normal.

[–] MaxHardwood@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago

The big difference being about 5 billion more people on the planet since then and now.

[–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 8 points 11 months ago

100% what you break into. Its exposed, and the exact place most people keep expensive tools and stupid people keep guns.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

A guy I worked with had a handgun with permits and stored in his car. We made torpedo parts for the navy. HR found out and sent an email about weapons on the premises. Hehe

[–] remotelove@lemmy.ca -2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I was in the military, I regularly practice and teach responsible use and ownership. My background checks are clean and I never use firearms while under the influence of anything. All of my firearms are well maintained and locked away or disabled when they are not.

Guns are just guns. They are fun to shoot and a useful tool for hunting. Quite honestly, I love the precision engineering that it takes to contain up to 65,000 psi and direct that energy in a controlled manner.

Your generalization of responsible gun owners is bad, unfortunately. You seem to demonize people blindly and that is simply not healthy and not fair to people who actually respect what these tools actually are.

I am guessing your experience around firearms is basically nil and that is OK! Fear of them is a natural thing and is healthy to maintain a deep respect for any kind of high energy machinery.

[–] whostosay@lemmy.world -5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm sorry but you cannot blame the US for gun crimes in CA, that's absurd.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago

Pretty much all guns used for crimes in Canada illegally made their way to Canada from the USA, that's just a fact.

[–] BarterClub@sh.itjust.works 7 points 11 months ago

Shouldn't be. But here in oh USA we treat it as our first born son. 🤦‍♂️

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

You aren't missing much.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 36 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Idiots do idiotic things. Who let this idiot on a plane with a gun in the first place?

[–] Tronn4@lemmy.world 32 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Theatre of Security Agency

[–] LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world 35 points 11 months ago

Run for public office and get 5 weeks vacation time with your beloved firearm while you deny basic human decency for the people who elect you.

Offer valid only if you have the magic ‘R’ next to your name

[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 32 points 11 months ago (3 children)

How do people do this by accident?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 40 points 11 months ago

They're very, very stupid.

[–] itsgroundhogdayagain@lemmy.ml 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

He found the gun itself and turned it in. Why would he have it with him on purpose when he willingly decided to turn it in? It wasn’t found by airport authorities first.

[–] UFODivebomb@programming.dev 0 points 11 months ago

Aye. I think Hanlon's razor actually applies here. Wacky as that is.

[–] papertowels@lemmy.one 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They're irresponsible gun owners is how.

[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

I assume he's used to just blithely carrying around guns everywhere without thinking about it.

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 18 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I wish the Hong Kong police and judicial system well in dealing with this asshole.

[–] Treczoks@kbin.social 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

As in: "Keep 'em as long as you want"?

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 9 points 11 months ago

Fine by me. One less insurrectionist.

Also, some people are saying he's a spy. They might want to look into that.

[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 15 points 11 months ago

I hope he loses his concealed carry permit at the very least.

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The Senator, pulled away by police with his pants round his ankles, "Hey, I thought this was America?!"

[–] draughtcyclist@programming.dev 12 points 11 months ago

He's from Longview, so that tracks better than you realize.