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The left must embrace law and order | Slavoj Zizek (www.newstatesman.com)

submitted 1 year ago by Clairvoidance@kbin.social to c/politics@kbin.social

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In a world of role-reversal, it would perhaps make the most sense to embrace the 21st century where the leftwing no longer seems to be the rude, vulgar, authentic force and instead insist that law and order is threatened by right wing terrorism as it bit by bit seeks to cast us into chaos on every front.

Personally I find the entire article to be a very interesting read, both with accurate observations and interesting analysis.

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[–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Name a single revolution/revolutionary change that took place by following “law and order”

[–] Clairvoidance@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think that misses the point of the post as Zizek argues the shaking of order as things are now will lead to more right wing authoritarianism.

[–] Tomthndsh@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think the argument is, if the left abandons law and order, the right will fill the vacuum with authoritarianism. I believe this.

We are not going to de-fund the police. In Ontario the right wing Ford government has reduced the educational requirements of people entering the police force, this is a blatant attempt to keep the police racist and sexist. The left leaning parties have no interest or plans on how to recruit or train the police. The vacuum, means that right wing parties push to get what they want, an authoritarian police force.

[–] QHC@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The left leaning parties have no interest or plans on how to recruit or train the police.

I can't speak about Ontario specifically, but broadly speaking this is simply untrue. The left has tons of ideas for how policing should be reformed or what kind of institutions could take the place of many things the police typically do currently.

Lots of those ideas begin with "start over from scratch", however, so the right likes to pretend that those ideas don't exist or just states they aren't possible without giving them fair consideration.

[–] Tomthndsh@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

'start over from scratch' is not an option. Many of the other ideas that the left has for reforming the police, such as extra training for soft skills, don't really work. I just don't hear any good ideas. That's the issue, the left really doesn't put out a comprehensive plan for policing communities that needs it.

[–] QHC@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Oh, so now the left does have ideas, and you are suddenly familiar with all of them? How did we go from nothing to "I don't like their ideas" so fast?

How much effort have you actually put into finding out what the left is talking about on this issue?

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