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[–] silentdon@lemmy.world 108 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It is morally and ethically ok to pirate media that no longer legally accessible.

[–] SpookyOperative@lemmy.blahaj.zone 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] moonsnotreal@lemmy.blahaj.zone 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Don't pirate indie games and small projects though. They usually deserve the money.

[–] TragicMagic@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Usually yeah. I still pirate them but use it as an extended demo. Still more than 80% of those I drop in less than a couple hours and never play again. Then I'm just happy I didn't pay for them. Others though like Factorio and Stardew valley I had to buy after pirating. They were just to good not to own.

[–] WhyIDie@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

While there are legitimate reasons to pirate certain media, Steam and GoG have great refund policies that perfectly serve this use case.

I use Steam, and recently refunded Stray for my stated reason to them that it's way too scripted and linear for my tastes, and refunded Street Fighter 6 because I'm still not a fan of the movement in the franchise - they refunded me within the same day for both times.

[–] BartsBigBugBag@lemmy.tf 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They still only refund back to your steam wallet though, right? So it’s less a refund and more store credit. Which is better than most digital products, for sure, but still not the same as a non-video game refund.

[–] Svinhufvud@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You have the option to return the money to your Steam wallter or the payment method you used.

[–] WhyIDie@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

and to add to this for anyone else reading this far, Steam wallet refund is much faster to refund than credit/debit; the latter is subject to whatever archaic processes the financial institute has to go through for it, and takes about 2-3 days iirc

[–] BartsBigBugBag@lemmy.tf 1 points 1 year ago

Oh that’s good to know. Shows how often I use the refund sydtem, ha. Cheers.

I don't, but I definitely don't think it would be wrong to. IP is an illegitimate idea, and has just as much legitimacy imo as a stranger telling me I'm obligated to pay them to breathe near them. I pay for some games as a donation, not a purchase.

[–] JoumanaKayrouz@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You wouldn’t download a car

[–] silentdon@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I definitely would. Especially if it was no longer made or sold