Fediverse

I don't actually want to do this right now, but I do want to know if it's really decentralized yet. Completely looks like it means each of:

• A client ✅
• A personal data server ✅
• A relay ❓
• Labelers ✅
• Feed generators ✅

It looks like the relay might be the bottleneck. If I'm understanding the protocol correctly, a relay could consume less than the whole network so it doesn't have to be ridiculously expensive to operate, but I'm not finding examples of people doing it.

Mastodon has been around since 2016 and has 804k MAU.

The platform has 57 third party apps.

The platform is decentralized and has community ran servers.

Survey by Japanese News Site Nlab asks users where they are moving to from Twitter/X - Misskey wins with 41% (n=5119)

Voting Results

The final ranking is as follows.

Misskey (41.3%)

Bluesky (19.9%)

Taittsu/タイッツー (13.4%)

Mastodon (10.7%)

Discord (5.5%)

@fediverse@lemmy.world

#Fediverse #MissKey #Bluesky #Mastodon #Discord

What's the point? Is it just to be like twitter? Why did twitter have that anyway. And if I hide mine I still show up in other people's public follower pages? That's dumb

On whatever topic the poster posts and it wold be just like old days instant messaging

The vegan community is growing on the lemmyverse now at 110 registered users that makes a MAU of 69 (0.15%) of the 44.9k Lemmy userbase.

If we apply the 90-9-1 rule with rounding factored in, we would have 55 lurkers, 5 small contributors and 1 contributor.

Lemmy.vg has 39 users, 7 communities, 533 posts, 376 comments and 18 6mo active users. Started on 24-05-09.

Vegantheoryclub.org has 71 users, 13 communities, 1200 posts, 2500 comments and 51 6mo active users. Started on 24-04-10.

!vegan@lemmy.vg has 106 posts, 110 comments, 83 subscribers and 671 6mo visitiors.

!vegan@vegantheoryclub.org has 388 posts, 1300 comments, 310 subscribers and 2500 6mo visitors.

Here are the signup pages if you’re interested: Lemmy.vg and Vegantheoryclub.org both are anarchist.

I wanted to ask something about handling spam, but magazine sized, since I noticed things like https://kbin.melroy.org/m/gaming and https://kbin.melroy.org/m/berita12 that are closed and only seem to host spam links. Do you report all the posts, just hail the admins? Sorry if it's not the right place, couldn't find MbinSupport or something similar.

Hi, I’m not self hosting, but I’ve realised I’ve spent a decent amount of time on this social media, and written a few things I may want to revisit in the future.

I was wondering if there was a way to “back up” my account, so if something happened to my host instance, I would still be able to have a copy of the comments and posts I made :).

I’m not expecting to be able to “transfer” my account to a new one, but have a backup of posts and comments for personal storage, having a copy on my harddrive.

I was just reading this post https://old.reddit.com/r/selfhosted/comments/1gmv76n/is_reddit_going_to_remain_the_primary_space_for/ and many barely see the fediverse as an alternative and they seem to have a negative bias towards it. Super ironic when it comes to the self-hosting community. Yes, some instances are problematic, yes, some devs might have had problematic views. But it doesn't really matter when it's federated and FOSS. I think it's clear-cut that the selfhosting community on Lemmy is a perfect alternative to reddit. Why is there such a negative bias?

Mbin in the last six months doubled their number of comments being sent out across the wider Fediverse. PieFed is making strides forward all the time. Sublinks hasn't seemed to keep up, but Lemmy.World has floated the idea of potentially moving to it at some point.

So we are not all just "Lemmy" anymore. Though "Fediverse" seems far too broad a term, when it can include such diverse aspects as PixelFed (like Instagram) as well as Mbin or Xhitter as well as Lemmy or PieFed or Sublinks - see e.g. A lot of good stuff is happening in the fediverses!

So people have taken to calling us the "Threadiverse". Tbf that name predated Mark Zuckerberg's "Threads", but still that name now seems tainted by it? Though otherwise accurate & precisely descriptive as it emphasizes how people talk in topic-based conversations, rather than the user-focused approach of Mastodon and Xhitter.

So what I do (when I don't say that we are on the Fediverse) is simply list out all the possibilities - Lemmy, Mbin, PieFed, and soon Sublinks - though that gets cumbersome. Or maybe there's a new term that we could use? @db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com mentioned:

most people think of microblogging when they hear "Fediverse". Maybe "Nestedverse" or "Forumverse"?

Or I suppose we could say "Threadiverse except don't worry we specifically exclude Threads", whenever we talk about ourselves, especially to mainstream people (who don't use Arch btw!:-P) e.g. to people on Reddit. (oh who am I kidding, ofc I mean @blaze@feddit.org, who regularly tries to attract new users to here and deserves some kind of award like "Ambassador of Lemmy" - oh and there we go again, just what the heck are we!?:-P)

Also, it is up to each instance whether they want to specifically exclude threads.net or not - and one could in theory not do that, so that whenever threads.net decides to turn on its federation it would absolutely flood that instance with content, drowning out the source from Lemmy (or WHATEVER we are!:-D).

So it can all get so complicated - what would help simplify it? Just call it "Lemmy" and leave it at that? Unless Lemmy.World moves to Sublinks, that is where >80% of the userbase lies and therefore much of the content is coming from atm. Or "Fediverse" even if that is too broad? Or "Threadiverse" even though that's a loaded word now? Or something new? (ngl, I kinda REALLY like "Forumverse")

People will call it whatever they want ofc - I intended this to be a silly & fun question to provoke us into thinking about it:-). Especially since I'm posting to Lemmy from PieFed - which is fucking beautiful that none of those details actually matters and we all can just share the content and enjoy it, together!:-D

I’ve not been banned myself, I’m just curious.

Is it akin to getting banned from every community on the instance, but the users profile is still visible from accounts on that instance?

Or is it akin to the user getting entirely “defederated” from the instance they were banned from?

I'll go first...

My favorite Fediverse platforms as of 2024

1. Mastodon - my main social feed platform that first introduced me to the Fediverse in general.

2. Lemmy - my second main social feed platform that originally substituted Reddit from years ago.

3. Matrix protocol - communication platform I use to connect with users on the Lemmy instance I'm on

4. Peertube - would love to get an account going and use it more often but still don't know how but there's FediVideo.

5. Bookwyrm - Goodreads alternative that I signed up for that could use more work for a genuine reading tracker.

BONUS: my least favorite Fediverse platform lately

WordPress - because I used to run art blogs on there before I heard word about drama about the CEO of the corporation so I basically had to put out my last existing art blog...RIP.

Thinking about this lately, especially in the context of the UD elections getting discussed a lot all over Lemmy.

If you look at the top 20 instances https://fedidb.org/software/lemmy

• Lemmy.world and feddit.nl are Dutch
• Lemm.ee is Estonian
• Feddit.org, discuss.tchncs.de are German
• SJW and lemmy.ca are Canadian
• Lemmy.blahaj.zone, aussie.zone and Reddthat are Australian
• sopuli.xyz is Finnish
• slrpnk.net is Portuguese
• lemmy.dbzer0, infosec.pub, mander.xyz, programming.dev, lemmy.sdf.org are thematic
• Beehaw is USA-based, but defederated from LW and SJW and still on 0.18.3, so not sure they're even that interested in Lemmy anymore

Out of the top 20, there is Midwest.social and Lemmy.today but they are quite small (326 and 201 monthly active users).

On the other hand, a lot of other countries have their own instances

• feddit.uk
• jlai.lu
• feddit.dk
• szmer.info
• lemmy.eco.br
• feddit.cl
• feddit.it

With the USA population and the Internet presence of the USA citizens, you would expect at least one large generalist instance based in the USA, but it doesn't seem to be the case.

Any ideas what the reasons might be? Is this just a coincidence?

Edit: for Lemmy.world:

The website and the agreement will be governed by and construed per the laws of the following countries and/or states:

• The Netherlands
• Republic of Finland
• Federal Republic of Germany

https://legal.lemmy.world/tos/

Not sure if this is the right place to post, but when the reddit protests were happening, I used Lemmy for a bit then decided to detox from "social media" for a while till now. Am I misinterpreting the activity here?

I have been looking for instances of peertube, but some of them do not have registration enabled or only support a specific type of videos (For example, technology), I want an instance where you can register and that is not limited by a specific theme for the videos.

How do you like it? How do you find people to follow when running your own "instance"? How does it interact with lemmy? It is an intriguing option i think, i am interested in this.

I encourage all Mastodon users to follow @bsky.brid.gy and take advantage of https://fed.brid.gy/ to bridge #Mastodon and #Bluesky accounts. It's great!

#fediverse #bdsm #gay @fediverse@lemmy.world @fediverse@a.gup.pe @mastodon