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TL;DR

  • ASUS has apparently withdrawn the ability to unlock the bootloader on its phones.
  • As per the company’s technical support team, Zenfone 10 and Zenfone 9 users
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[–] KitsuneHaiku@ttrpg.network 2 points 1 year ago

Are they going to increase their abysmal security update support time?

[–] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Which means, legally, you can no longer own even the hardware of a Zenfone you bought, you now only license it. Since their OEM software is proprietary and in nearly every software's TOS they can revoke your license to it at any time for any reason, which would effectively brick the phone if bootloader unlocking is not possible.

[–] bitwolf@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Very easy way to remove an almost perfect phone from my list of upgrade considerations.

Edit:

Saw the tweet from Asus saying an unlock tool will be available soon.

[–] hyorvenn@jlai.lu 1 points 1 year ago

So they will just be bricks in a few years

[–] hornedfiend@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

OK. Pixels forever it is.

[–] CamileBlah@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I have been thinking about getting the ZenFone 10 as well. I have seen a lot of similar posts here and on various google searches. In the XDA forum for the phone there also a topic about not being able to unlock the bootloader/root, but there is a bit more info on the reasoning.

"A moderator in the Asus ZenTalk forum posted that they are working on a new release of the unlock tool and that it should be available in Q3 2023."

https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/unlocking-the-bootloader.4607595/

[–] ComputerSagtNein@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Tbh, it has been years since I last rooted a phone. There is hardly any reason left to do it tbh.

[–] godless@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Plenty of reasons.

  • System wide adblock
  • Advanced permission management
  • Backups and exports of system apps
  • Full uninstall of bloatware (instead of mere hiding them with adb)
  • Enabling screenshots system-wide

And a bunch of other stuff I need in order to have a fully functioning device.

[–] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] godless@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It doesn't remove them, it uninstalls the app from the current user profile, but they persist on system level. That's what I meant with the comment in brackets.

It's the best you can do if rooting is not an option, but I prefer a full removal.

[–] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah, I see. Would the app still run and consume resources? Or is it just sitting in whatever is a phone's equivalent of a hard disc?

[–] godless@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

It would just sit there and be dormant.

[–] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The problem with companies trying to stop this is the fact that there will be at least one person/team who will find a way to bypass this.

No amount of corporate software devs/engineers can stop the might of a determined team on the internet from achieving their goals when it comes to this kinda stuff.

Edit:

Don't know whether the bootloader locking is actually coming or not because I saw a different post saying it was a misunderstanding.

[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

The updated response from Asus:

The service team reply misunderstood the situation. Unlock tool is unavailable at this moment but we are allowing the possibility to unlock, please stay tuned.

So the server is down and will be back up. But that is not exactly the most reassuring response. It kind of seems like they are planning on removing it later or majorly altering it.

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