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Mildly Infuriating

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Yes, I know I can walk around it, hence the mildly infuriating. Still a d*ck move

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[–] flip@lemmy.nbsp.one 157 points 1 year ago (3 children)

You can walk around them, people in a wheelchair or with a buggy cannot. Disrespectful af.

[–] NPC@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago

Yup, exactly this.

[–] fiat_lux@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Even just people with luggage and baby strollers are fucked. People who are blind also are really disadvantaged here. The scars on the shins of people who have used a white cane for years are numerous.

I'm a fan of fewer cars on the road, but things like this are also reasons why we need still some forms of direct transport access. Travelling a few blocks from a public transport stop can still be filled with hazards like this that prevent people from arriving at their destination.

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[–] Millie@lemm.ee 93 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

Okay, so as a cab driver I have a lot of opportunities to get frustrated with how selfish and myopic people are. But you know what happens when I do that? I make myself miserable.

I, personally, find that my mental state is much, much better the more I'm willing to accept people not doing things 'the right way'. Yes, I could get annoyed for the hypothetical people who might encounter an obstacle to their mobility here (who have not and may not ever arrive), but what will that actually do for me or for anyone else?

Unless I'm actually moving the obstacle my disapproval is completely useless. It may even cause me to do something stupid and inconsiderate myself as I become distracted by my annoyance.

But if I just let it go, smile, and move on, the utter insignificance of the action can just fade into the background and not make itself part of my focus on how to reflect on humanity or my day.

[–] Dirk_Darkly@sh.itjust.works 36 points 1 year ago

Very true, but this community isn't called "Letting things go".

[–] stevedidWHAT@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Who gave you the right to bestow such a beautifully worded response >:(

[–] onionbaggage@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I'm literally angry with rage!!

[–] PeleSpirit@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think this is more of people looking out for the disabled, not being annoyed.

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[–] wizenheimer@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Well, there's three bikes in this picture and only one car. The car is taking up more space than all of the bikes. Simple solution: get rid of that car parking spot and turn it into bike parking. Now more people can visit the businesses!

[–] PeleSpirit@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But that's not how it's currently set up, both cars and bikes can coexist. These bikes shouldn't be parked there just like cars shouldn't go into the sidewalk.

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[–] nbafantest@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In the US, this would be a F250 extended King Cab blocking your path while idling and spewing diesel exhaust.

I guess our "mildly" infuriating things are different.

[–] stevedidWHAT@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s not legal to ride your bike on the sidewalk in the US, no?

[–] stewsters@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's a local thing. My town doesn't let you ride on the main street sidewalk, but you can everywhere else. There are signs posted at the end of the street that you would never notice.

That being said, ride in the road. Assert some dominance.

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[–] stewsters@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago (3 children)

While they could have snugged them in, they do need the ability to park them somewhere while shopping. One option is in the road, like the white van. Or put up some bike racks to guide parking. This is poor city planning.

[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

This is poor city planning.

There's a lot of things wrong with the Netherlands, but poor city planning - at least when it comes to bike infrastructure - is not something you'll find there.

[–] youtherealmvp1@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There’s no way to tell from this single pic. Who knows, there might have been proper bike parking spots just around the corner.

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[–] MBM@lemmings.world 6 points 1 year ago

The social way is to at least put them both right next to a wall, not side by side in the middle of the sidewalk

[–] dan1101@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Whoops, accidentally bumped into your bikes as I walked down the sidewalk they were parked on!

[–] NPC@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I was really tempted to do that, but I felt them being an asshole shouldn't be a reason for me to be one as well

[–] schmidtster@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

You’re just making space for anyone that needs by in a wheelchair.

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[–] Bonsoir@lemmy.ca 28 points 1 year ago (9 children)

I might be too american, but I'm more concerned about leaving a bike outside unlocked without a fear to have it stolen. How does that work?

[–] prtm@lemm.ee 23 points 1 year ago

They are actually locked. In the Netherlands bikes usually have ring locks attached to the frame that lock just the rear wheel. It's way more convenient, you can quickly lock your bike and pop into a store. It's of course less safe, so especially in larger cities and at train stations people do lock their bike to something.

Example of lock ring lock: https://www.google.com/search?q=axa+ring+lock&biw=412&bih=712&dpr=2.63

[–] rarely@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I am an american but i think it works like this:

  • streets are bike friendly
  • more reasonable to just bike everywhere so everyone does
  • city may provide free bikes to use
  • more demand for bikes, more competition, less expensive bikes
  • less bike theft in general as a result
  • these aren't $4k+ bespoke bikes
  • something something socialized healthcare something something better labor laws something something higher taxes but a better quality of life. Why steal? Be happy.

We don't have these things here. Except for expensive bikes, that's all we have. That's why I got these boltcutters...

[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 6 points 1 year ago

Except for expensive bikes, that’s all we have. That’s why I got these boltcutters…

Well of course, how else do people get expensive bikes?

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[–] eggshappedegg@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 year ago

Those are all locked. This is in from the Netherlands. The most bicycle happy and bicycle friendly country in the world. So much so thar they have bicycle parking problems.

[–] Rolive@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In the Netherlands they get stolen all the time as well. Locked or not. We have bike thieves that just load the whole bike including lock into a van and drive off with it.

[–] KrokanteBamischijf@feddit.nl 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Either that, or if attached to a pole/bike rack with a chain or bar lock, they'll just pull out the old angle grinder and go to work.

Happens everywhere, happens in broad daylight, happens when there's people around, and usually doesn't raise a lot of suspicion because "might be someone who's lost their keys".

Since there's 4 bicycles for every person living in the Netherlands, the key strategy is just making sure your bicycle is a little less fancy than the one locked up next to yours. Thieves tend to go for the ones they can resell for the most amount of money. In other words: Hide in the numbers.

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[–] irotsoma@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

Mostly pisses me off because it blocks disabled people. I wouldn't blame them for knocking it down.

[–] Mowardz@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

you may not realize...that belongs to the main character

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There’s an office building near me where one of the employees parks his Harley Davison motorcycle on the handicapped ramp of an emergency exit. Granted it doesn’t see daily foot traffic but someone in a wheelchair might need to, you know, escape a fire.

[–] Nisciunu@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Someone should inform the authorities and let them tow it. There should be something that can be done legally.

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[–] RagingHungryPanda@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm in the US and when I read the title I assumed it'd be a car parked in an insane way. I wish we had the opportunity to be mad at bikes haha. The closest is people dumping scooters wherever or they try to park them politely but then they fall over

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[–] iByteABit@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm so used to having to bend over backwards to walk anywhere in Greece that I literally could not see the problem

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[–] Nurgle@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Those rental scooters in my city are always parked so they obstruct as much of the sidewalk as possible, it's so infuriating.

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[–] Hank@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm so mad at people who don't properly park their rented scooters. I always take my time to put them aside if they're a hindrance on the sidewalk but it infuriates me how it just takes TWO seconds to not be an asshole and people still don't bother.

[–] Tramdan@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes you can walk round it but could you get past with a pram?

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[–] PurpleGameBoy@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I know this was in the Netherlands before I even saw the Dutch licenseplate lol. This is common practise, very annoying tho.

[–] s_s@lemmy.one 5 points 1 year ago

I'm sure the one person that parked that van is really miffed by how much space those three bikes are taking up.

[–] maxberg101@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Serious Costco sample area vibes.

[–] MartinXYZ@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, you can walk around it but what about someone in a wheelchair?

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[–] Frisbeedude@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have no clue what this is about. Can someone please explain?

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[–] ConditionOverload@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Of course. They're the main characters. You're just a side character pleb so you wouldn't understand.

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Where I live, all of those bikes would have been stolen within ten minutes anyway

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