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Thank you for creating a safe space. I'm an ally to the LGBTQ+ community and am happy there's a space not for "everyone", but for those willing to accept trans folk and silence those against them (while having funny posts on it as well).
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Thank you! I followed 196 over here from Reddit when it moved and I appreciate you reaffirming its principles. I think the move to Lemmy paradoxically gave 196 more visibility to people who don't necessarily agree with those principles because its posts wind up so prominent on All, especially in smaller instances. It's kind of hilarious how many posts I've seen asking why people on Lemmy say "rule" all the time π
Damn straight. Us queers need to stand together and there can be no god damn LGBTQ+ without the flippin T.
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I'm here because 196 shows up on my feed and I really enjoy the memes.
I also have absolutely no problem with trans individuals or really any lifestyle anyone wants to live that isn't hurting anyone else.
That said, was there an incident recently on here that spurred the creation of this post? Did something go down?
Edit: Changed "bothering" to "hurting" because I frankly don't give a fuck about the feelings of the type of people that are "bothered" by LGBT+.
Someone made a comment saying that they'd be down to fuck a trans man if they hadn't transitioned yet because he likes women. It was controversial, but then one of the mods here decided to post a screenshot of that comment on the main, and the people in the comments were fucking horrendous. It's all "I'm an ally, but..." statements. Some of them were fine, but even the best ones were just people taking the opportunity to say that they don't wanna fuck trans people. And that's fine, you don't have to be attracted to trans people at all, but a trans safe space isn't the spot for that discussion at all.
The mod shouldn't have posted what's essentially bait, nor should they have not actually moderated the thread after posting the bait. I'm pretty sure the instance admin ended up having to handle it. The guy who made the original comment is saying it was him, but that's not really what matters. This controversy was more about properly moderating the space than anything.
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Heck yeah! Fuck Transphobia!
Thank God. THAT post earlier was shocking me.
Just read the post that started this all. I thought that hating a person for having a sexual preference that doesn't agree with you, it's exactly what the queer community was fighting against. Well you do you. Plus demanding aggressive support only is in really poor taste. Great job making a meme thread into political crap. Yes, let's burn down everything because I don't agree with a part of it.
You're the one commenting on this instance. They manage it and can make the rules. I for one am happy to have a space where I don't need to worry about assholes making creepy comments about their sexual preferences and casually bigoted opinions.
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Joining most of the people here in saying, "Huh, what community?" I'm not against trans people, and I despise bigots, but I'm not a part of your community either.
To be honest I don't care to be part of any federated community that defines itself by what it won't tolerate, grow up and use the block feature.
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TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS
Oh cool, I was getting kind of uncomfortable with how things were going, this sounds just right.
Trans rights!
I'm more of a casual user so I haven't seen the transphobia here but fuck transphobes and you should all have a place to feel safe.
I'm here because this showed up in all.
I don't "aggressively support" squat. I do stand up for life, liberty,and the pursuit of happiness. Someone being trans does not affect anyone's life, liberty, or pursuit of happiness until they get aggressive.
What does that even mean?
until they get aggressive
This like not being racist, but they shouldn't be so loud with those blm protests?
Not homophobic, but they shouldn't have to make everything gay in the summer?
Maybe in wrong (I hope I am), but that is what your comment sounds like.
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Why are you showing up in a comment section without having most of the context on a post that doesn't concern you or your communities? Legit asking, what is the point of this comment?
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Trans rights! Y'all deserve aggressive support!
Trans rights are human rights. Trans people's existence doesn't get to be dictated on other's whims, or have their validity be aproved by other's checklists. Trans people get to live and be respected. Dismissing someone's right to live that literally is just trying to exist peacfully just because you don't feel like treating them as a human being says everything. I want to have trans people feel safe in their environments,whichever that is (online or irl), and we can't achieve that unless we're vocal, straightfoward and fierce in our activism for trans rights. Because trans rights are human rights. Thank you for being here and being a part of this community.
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TRANS RIGHTS!!! π³οΈββ§οΈπ³οΈββ§οΈπ³οΈββ§οΈπ³οΈββ§οΈπ³οΈββ§οΈπ³οΈββ§οΈ
Also people remember to report assholes! Don't interact, report them. Mods will handle it.
You have my full support.
As a.. whatever the hell I am.. I support everyone to be who they want to be. No exceptions.
Yeah I have no problem with you being trans, I do have a problem with this goofiness. Good luck, friends.
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Personally, I don't think about other people's sexuality all that much, so I guess that makes me a non-aggressive supporter.
It's weird to impose this type of stuff, but I respect that this is your little space on the internet, so I'm leaving, as you asked. Thank you for the smiles and laughs.
βI have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's greatest stumbling block in his strike toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to 'order' than to justice.'
Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr.
Not to equivocate trans and black liberation because they are very different, but do you think βaggressiveβ or βnon aggressiveβ supporter of race rights better slots into the whites who demonstrated their unwillingness to go along with racism or the ones who were like βI donβt care about your race, Iβm not a racist, but how dare you ask me to support you in any meaningful or visible way?β
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I'll be honest I think alienating people feeling in the middle is a bad idea, making an echo chainber is ehat those other websites are for, and people on the middle ground are the ones whose beliefs matter the most as they they are the only ones that will change things.
There shouldnt be any middle ground on the statement "trans rights are human rights". If you think there's room for compromise on the oppression of marginalized groups then you're either a lost cause or willfully ignorant of the world around you. People that are in a safe space, specifically dedicated to them and people like them, have no obligation to educate or entertain disingenuous "discourse" about whether or not they should be allowed to exist.
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As far as I know the original subreddit this com came from was very trans, to the point where I, as a cis straight ally, was nervous that I was somehow not supposed to be in it. And I'm pretty sure I wasn't the only one.
So I'm witchu
I must have good filters or something, because I don't think I've noticed any TP / TERFing in here. Sad.
(of course i follow from a mastodon account so i probably miss a lot of stuff)
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