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Summary

California farmers, many of whom supported Trump, face a potential crisis as his immigration policies threaten mass deportations of undocumented workers, who make up at least half of the state’s 162,000 farm labor force.

Deportations could devastate agriculture, leading to labor shortages, unharvested crops, and rising food prices.

Farmers hope for solutions such as workforce legalization or expanded H-2A guest worker programs, though these have been criticized for exploitation risks.

Historical parallels to programs like “Operation Wetback” and the bracero system highlight possible labor and human rights challenges ahead.

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[–] lohky@lemmy.world 35 points 3 days ago

Oh no, farmers lose the indentured servants they've been threatening with deportation for years!

Fucking morons. Enjoy getting your hands dirty.

[–] Crankenstein@lemmy.world 97 points 4 days ago (1 children)

My Uncle is a close friend of Jeff Landry (R-Louisiana) and voted for Trump.

Constantly would demonize illegal immigrants with all kinds of vitriolic accusations. Then would immediately brag that his hydro seeding company is making so much profit because he hires almost exclusively illegal immigrants and pays them peanuts under the table.

I've reported him to the state numerous times but nothing ever gets done (remember who he is close friends with now...)

I hope he goes out of business. I hope it ruins him.

[–] Bremmy@lemmy.ml 18 points 3 days ago

Thank you for trying, I hope it ruins him too

[–] garretble@lemmy.world 129 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Still wild the conversation NEVER turns to the people employing undocumented workers and instead demonize the workers themselves.

[–] Alwaysnownevernotme@lemmy.world 97 points 4 days ago (3 children)

The point isn't to actually deport these people, it's to give their employers and landlords a powerful tool to exploit them and prevent them from benefitting from any social services.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 49 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Yep, the more precarious their legal status, the more compliant they are. This is all about suppressing labour rights.

That's why the Republican playbook regarding the border was always just talk, and Trump somehow doesn't get that it was always a scam to get the votes of the racists without ever seriously planning to follow through.

If all farm workers were legally in the US, they'd form unions right off the bat, especially since a strike during harvest season is going to fuck over a farmer financially within days.

[–] WaxiestSteam69@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago

Not only does it cause compliance it creates a perfect setup for exploitation, extortion, and trafficking.

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 4 points 3 days ago

But pushing them too far could result in them just starting some fires and leaving to go cross the border back home. Sure they left for a reason but pushing them too far is going to make them leave for one.

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 20 points 4 days ago

When you put it like that, it sounds like slavery with extra steps.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Fuck me, I hadn't looked at it this way and I should have.

It's such a noble and rare thing to admit that you understand something on a deeper level because of an internet comment that I genuinely don't know how to respond.

Well done friend, and happy holidays.

[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 28 points 4 days ago

Yup. A place that my wife worked at employed at least one undocumented immigrant that got picked up by CBP. Did the company gave any fines or legal issues? Nope. But the undocumented employee had to pay a few thousand in fines and was never deported.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Lol.

Didn't he have to bail farmers out last time due to his horrendous policies?

And farmers didn't learn?

That's pretty stupid? Is our food safe?

[–] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 18 points 3 days ago

The bailouts ensured they didn't have to learn. The only thing better than selling a product for money is selling less product for the same amount of money because the government subsidized you to offset their shitty policies.

[–] Pulptastic@midwest.social 29 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Hello Fuck Around, have you met my friend Find Out?

[–] Wes4Humanity@lemm.ee 19 points 3 days ago

Sadly these rich farmers won't find out anything... They'll say there's shortages because of the deportations, whether there actually are or not, and will jack up prices to more than cover their profit at consumer expense. They fuck around, WE (and the ~~slaves~~ immigrant farm workers) get to do the finding out.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 59 points 4 days ago (1 children)

They don't even remember that the leopards ate their faces last time...

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 36 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Leopards ate their hippocampus

[–] troglodytis@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago

Their hiphoppocampus, His lyrics are canyonus

[–] NarrativeBear@lemmy.world 44 points 4 days ago (2 children)

But, but I though undocumented immigrants were lazy?! How can they both be lazy and take all the jobs?!

[–] Deello@lemm.ee 23 points 4 days ago

Schrodinger's immigrant

[–] zabadoh@ani.social 25 points 4 days ago

Don't forget they're also criminal murderer drug dealers. They take all the jobs, and steal everything, sell everyone drugs, then kill them all, but they're lazy about it. /s

[–] wabafee@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago

Poor farmers they have to actually get their hands dirty. Poor guy.

[–] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 34 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (25 children)

California farmers are some of the most ignorant people I have ever encountered.

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[–] llama@midwest.social 5 points 3 days ago

MAGA when they realize they are part of the collective America and are just as responsible for making it greater as anybody else.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

Its just another fafo, nothing to see

[–] ThatKomputerKat@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

Well, that sucks. Oh well.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 22 points 4 days ago

It's because they can use it as a threat to keep the workers cowed.

[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Too bad it's mostly the cities here declaring themselves as sanctuary cities for the undocumented. Weird that Latinos make up such a huge majority in the central valley, too, but haters gonna hate and boy does rural CA love to hate.

[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago (4 children)

If someone opens a farm in the city they will have all the workers!!!

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[–] capital@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Didn't we do this one already last time? It obviously didn't hurt enough to keep them from doing it again...

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago
[–] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago
[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Fuck the farmers who voted for Mango Mussolini and I hope the damn ICE raids their shit. Mango Mussolini will fail to break former President Obama's, Deporter-in-Chief, deportation record.

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 3 points 3 days ago

They are probably hoping for more work availability and higher pay for themselves if they don't have to compete.

[–] Tedesche@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

Wah, wah, waaaaaaaaaah….

[–] grasshopper_mouse@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago

Fuckin' dumb-dumbs. FAFO.

Reap what you sow.

Double entendre intended.

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