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I prefer "list" view over grid view. Switching to grid view shows six videos before the break, but significantly less information about the video.
God, Youtube has gone to shit lately.
Lately in this context, meaning about the last 15 or so years.
uBlock Origin makes this easy:
| Instructions | Screenshot |
|---|---|
| 1. Find a Shorts section on the page |  |
| 2. Select the element picker in uBlock Origin |  |
| 3. Select the Shorts section |  |
| 4. Click "Create" |  |
| 5. Enjoy |  |
You can hide segments like that with ublock, fwiw. It's been really useful to me for these kinds of changes every single website seems to be pushing these days.
I dont know where I have it from (I think somone on reddit posted it), but I use this in the uBlock Origin Filter since 8 month and it removes all my shorts from the subscription:
www.youtube.com##ytd-guide-renderer a.yt-simple-endpoint path[d^="M10 14.65v-5.3L15 12l-5 2.65zm7.77-4.33"]:upward(ytd-guide-entry-renderer)
www.youtube.com##ytd-mini-guide-renderer a.yt-simple-endpoint path[d^="M10 14.65v-5.3L15 12l-5 2.65zm7.77-4.33"]:upward(ytd-mini-guide-entry-renderer)
www.youtube.com##ytd-browse #dismissible ytd-rich-grid-slim-media[is-short]:upward(ytd-rich-section-renderer)
www.youtube.com##ytd-browse[page-subtype="home"] .ytd-thumbnail[href^="/shorts/"]:upward(ytd-rich-item-renderer)
www.youtube.com##ytd-browse[page-subtype="subscriptions"] .ytd-thumbnail[href^="/shorts/"]:upward(ytd-grid-video-renderer,ytd-rich-item-renderer)
www.youtube.com##ytd-search .ytd-thumbnail[href^="/shorts/"]:upward(ytd-video-renderer)
www.youtube.com##ytd-watch-next-secondary-results-renderer .ytd-thumbnail[href^="/shorts/"]:upward(ytd-compact-video-renderer,ytd-shelf-renderer)
www.youtube.com##ytd-watch-next-secondary-results-renderer ytd-reel-shelf-renderer
www.youtube.com##ytd-browse[page-subtype="subscriptions"] ytd-video-renderer .ytd-thumbnail[href^="/shorts/"]:upward(ytd-item-section-renderer)
www.youtube.com##ytd-browse[page-subtype="channels"] #contents.ytd-reel-shelf-renderer:upward(ytd-item-section-renderer)
www.youtube.com##ytd-browse[page-subtype="trending"] .ytd-thumbnail[href^="/shorts/"]:upward(ytd-video-renderer)
www.youtube.com##ytd-search #contents ytd-reel-shelf-renderer
m.youtube.com##ytm-reel-shelf-renderer
m.youtube.com##ytm-pivot-bar-renderer div.pivot-shorts:upward(ytm-pivot-bar-item-renderer)
m.youtube.com##ytm-browse ytm-item-section-renderer ytm-thumbnail-overlay-time-status-renderer[data-style="SHORTS"]:upward(ytm-video-with-context-renderer)
m.youtube.com##ytm-browse ytm-item-section-renderer ytm-thumbnail-overlay-time-status-renderer[data-style="SHORTS"]:upward(ytm-compact-video-renderer)
m.youtube.com##ytm-search ytm-thumbnail-overlay-time-status-renderer[data-style="SHORTS"]:upward(ytm-compact-video-renderer)
m.youtube.com##ytm-single-column-watch-next-results-renderer ytm-thumbnail-overlay-time-status-renderer span:has-text(/^(0:\d\d|1:0\d)$/):upward(ytm-video-with-context-renderer)
It will sure break in a couple of month again. It did 8 Month ago and I am sure YT will change the code again at some point.
I do not trust having to many FF Extensions installed from some rando from the Internet, so I like this solution better.
I don't mind shorts so much but Enhancer for Youtube has the ability to convert shorts to regular videos or hide them.
But the Videos are still only 1 Minute long. I find them a disgrace for my attention span. Before shorts/tiktok people were already arguing how deep a video of 10 Minute really can be and might be giving only a shallow idea of a topic. Going even further down to 1 Minute per topic is too much (less) for me. I prefer videos 20 Minutes+. Mostly 45-60 Minutes hit a decent spot for me to feel like I learned something about a topic. A couple of days ago I watched a 2-parts video of 6h and 5h (over several days) about the Russo-Japanese war. And even that was skimming over a lot of topics (obviously) but afterwards I felt like I understood something. I dont know how a 1 Minute short can transport anything other than just "a feeling of knowledge" - at this point it is basically just entertainment. I already felt 10 Minutes was snack-infotainment short. 1 Minute clips leave me behind like eating candy for dinner: Very unsatisfied. And maybe that is the reason people then click the next tiktok/short, because they actually do not feel satisfied by such a short clip and have the feeling for wanting more. And they satisfy this "more" by switching to another 1-Minute video. Again getting the feeling of more, yet getting less in the end of the day.
Youtube added shorts to subscription, and i added Youtube-shorts block to firefox.
I hate this format of content so much. An automatically reloading, never ending stream of snippets that are hardly informative even if they try. Fucking looks like they are trying to hypnotize us.
Oh wait, they absolutely are. Stop thinking about not being able to afford a living even though you bust your ass of everyday. Stop worrying about the climate. Get a new iphone and obediently watch citizen.
Trying to hop on that ADHD train.
What I really hate about shorts is the lack of video controls? Do you really have to remove them, Google? Then there's the looping videos that are cute when you first see them then get old and add nothing fast.
You can use the regular Youtube interface for shorts, I do it everytime I open one:
go to a short video
replace the /shorts/ part of the URL by /v/
??? (trigger warning: old meme)
Profit
It’s all intentional. They know that overall it increases engagement and that’s all they care about.
Even Instagram and Tiktok let people fast forward videos. YouTube needs to get their shit together.
I just hate how much functionality the Shorts player loses compared to the regular Youtube player. They seriously made their product worse to imitate a competitor? Who asked for this?
I think the UX team is banking on user psychology. Majority of users don't want functionality, they want familiarity. They should feel like they are watching Tiktok.
We should remember that we power users are a minority in social media.
Fuck YouTube shorts. It's infuriating that YouTube doesn't provide us an option to remove all traces of that fuckin cancer from the platform.
My biggest issue is so many of the people I sub that have shorts, the shorts are their normal videos but only a small clip of it. I dont want that, Im already watching the videos!
Agreed. Some of the YouTubers I watch have said that YouTube is forcing them to make shorts because their videos won't be shown to people if they don't. A couple are even doing a bit of malicious compliance and taking the piss out of YouTube Shorts because they hate it as much as we do.
If we wanted short clips, we'd be on TikTok damnit!
Just add this line to the "My Filters" section for the uBlock Origin extension.
www.youtube.com###content > .ytd-rich-section-renderer.style-scope
My original mastadon post has screenshots with red guide marks in case this is confusing:
This is like going to the drug store to an inhaler but their entrance takes you through the perfume section to get to the pharmacy.
I don't get why everyone is so mad about this. When I saw it yesterday, I was glad they finally put them into a separate box I can just scroll past. Before, Shorts were just mixed in between the normal videos in the subscription feed and that was fucking awful.
And before that, they were in a separate section like they are now, but it had a thing you could click to hide that section entirely for 30 days.
Just because it's less bad than the previous thing doesn't mean it's good.
YouTube shorts are awful. Most of them are just incomplete YouTube videos.
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Anyone get an update on for their TV app this week?
Went from having reasonably-sized thumbnails, to these over-sized ones where only like 2.5 of them fit horizontally and less than 1.5 of them fit vertically. They are obnoxiously huge which means to see what videos are in your feed you have to do a ton of needless scrolling.
Just a week ago, it wasn't like this - I think you could see 4 horizontally and 3 vertically before which is perfect for a living room experience.
My favorite part is that there is no way to make any adjustments. If you are going to change something like this, at least let me change it back. WTF?
Honestly this is better than it was - prior to this change the shorts were just mixed in with the regular videos ... now at least you can scroll past them and see only videos.
Shorts are cancer yes?
I fucking hate shorts so much. I completely blocked them:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/youtube-shorts-block/
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/youtube-shorts-block/jiaopdjbehhjgokpphdfgmapkobbnmjp 
It's amazing how much YouTube doesn't understand what people do and don't like about TikTok
Watching every platform ruin itself to become a facsimile of every other platform is deeply infuriating and exhausting
It’s sad having a front row seat to The Internet slowly killing itself.
Reduced the amount of videos per row too, had to find a ublock filter for that one.
If anyone is interested:
`! YouTube Fix & Customization v1.7
! (1-2/12) YouTube 5 Videos Per Row Fix (Home and Channel Pages)
youtube.com##ytd-rich-grid-row, #contents.ytd-rich-grid-row:style(display:contents !important;)
youtube.com##ytd-rich-grid-renderer:style(--ytd-rich-grid-items-per-row: 5 !important;)
! (3-4/12) YouTube 5 Videos Per Row Fix (Channel Page margin fix)
youtube.com##ytd-rich-item-renderer[is-slim-grid]:first-of-type:style(margin-left: auto !important;)
youtube.com##ytd-rich-item-renderer[is-slim-grid]:last-of-type:style(margin-right: auto !important;)
! (5-6/12) YouTube 5 Videos Per Row Fix (Font Size fix)
youtube.com###video-title.ytd-rich-grid-media, #video-title.ytd-rich-grid-slim-media:style(font-size: 1.4rem !important; line-height: 2rem !important;)
youtube.com###metadata-line.ytd-video-meta-block:style(font-size: 1.2rem !important; line-height: 1.8rem !important;)
! (7/12) YouTube 5 Videos Per Row Fix (Removes annoying horizontal scrollbar)
youtube.com##body:style(overflow-x: hidden !important;)
! (9/12) YouTube Search Results Video Thumb Size Fix
youtube.com##ytd-video-renderer[use-bigger-thumbs][bigger-thumbs-style="BIG"] ytd-thumbnail.ytd-video-renderer, ytd-video-renderer[use-bigger-thumbs] ytd-thumbnail.ytd-video-renderer, ytd-radio-renderer[use-bigger-thumbs] ytd-thumbnail.ytd-radio-renderer, #avatar-section.ytd-channel-renderer:style(max-width: 360px !important;)
! Optional! Only use these 3 rules below if you set items-per-row to 5 or 6 from the first rule set, "(1-2/11) 4 Videos Per Row Fix"
! (10-11/12) YouTube Channel page Videos tab Full Width Video Content (Makes videos to fill the page)
youtube.com##ytd-two-column-browse-results-renderer.grid-5-columns, #ytd-two-column-browse-results-renderer.grid-6-columns:style(width: 100% !important;)
youtube.com##ytd-two-column-browse-results-renderer.grid:style(max-width: initial !important;)`
I wish they would give us a user setting to completely hide shorts from ever showing. I have never watched a short and I will never watch a short. It’s just not the type of content for me. If I wanted TikTok style videos, I would download TikTok. It’s crazy how much stuff YouTube tries to cram down your throat even as a premium subscriber.
Edit: also just a great example of companies jumping on a bandwagon to make a quick buck. YouTube is a well established video hosting and streaming service, they didn’t need to spend how every many millions of dollars adding shorts (not that they would have bothered spending that money on the user/creator experiences anyways)
They also still seem to run user-testing on hiding these sections for 30 days. I had this option a few months ago, then it vanished and today it was back again. Maybe enough people are still actively hiding it so that YouTube still doesn't fully commit to shorts. Let's hope it stays that way, they are annoying and I couldn't care less about another Instagram cat video algorithm.
I'd be open to trying shorts but the video player is intentionally awful. No volume control nor the ability to rewind. Why!?
Worse, they have started playing Shorts without my consent as soon as I open the app.
How is it that such a shitty site/corporation has continued to maintain a grip on this market? Why aren't we inundated with viable alternatives?
Hosting video is expensive?
That's basically it. The only potential competitor is Twitch, but even then Amazon only really gets into free streaming content.
Google has cheap hosting costs and the best ad market in the industry. The only non-porn competitors either charge the uploader to host or charge the user to watch.
Yeah. Everyone thinks it's easy to just "setup a YouTube".
I support nebula which is a subscription service with some good creators. And because "fuck shorts and clickbait titles/thumbnails".
Worse: When you watch a short that appeared in your search results, all related videos are general shorts and NOT more search results. It's too distracting, and for a person with ADHD such as myself, it kills my productivity. 🤬
I highly suggest using Enhancer for YouTube, it allows you to hide shorts and also convert them to normal video player so you can seek them like any other YouTube video.
There's also multitude of different customisation options, you can hide related videos, change default comment order, disable comments altogether, expand the description ;)
https://addons.mozilla.org/addon/enhancer-for-youtube/ https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/enhancer-for-youtube/ponfpcnoihfmfllpaingbgckeeldkhle https://microsoftedge.microsoft.com/addons/detail/enhancer-for-youtube%E2%84%A2/dlgfaleeejmphhnemjgiaekdbonkagkd