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[–] Dark_Blade@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

We kept losing, and will keep losing, because billionaire megacorps simply have the money to move worlds if doing so aligns with their ‘interests’ (ie money). This hasn’t changed, and won’t change now either; the Fediverse is done for.

Fuck Facebook for ruining another good thing.

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[–] brave_lemmywinks@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'm a lot more optimistic (aka naive) than most it seems.

I'm really new to all this fediverse stuff, but I believe we can't lose what we already have, people that are here before Threads, will probably be here after Threads, since we already made that decision to leave reddit or twitter, to leave all that behind is a big social sacrifice.

My red line for Threads will be if they start to mess with the standards and the ActivityPub protocol, acting in bad faith.

[–] minh2134@programming.dev 14 points 1 year ago

People can and will be willing to go back to the corporate side if their service are perceived to be better. Reminder, Reddit wasnt in this situation for years, carried by decades of unpaid volunteer work, it is only when they pushed the line too hard that we moved to other alternative, despite being the same company as they ever: profit first, user second. If Meta could pull off a better service, and looking at the money at their disposal, its highly likely, it wont be far fetched to predict users would move to Threads for better integration, and leave other servers years behind, and when Threads makes the move to extinguish, our community would have been too far behind to ever recover our stand.

It wont be the first, or even second time it happened. IE did it, Microsoft Office did it, Chrome did it (to a lesser extent), by this point, we should be suspicious of any move by big corps, just by the sheer ease of them pulling it off.

[–] Thedogspaw@midwest.social 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Question if a server defederate from threads but is still federated with a server that federate with threads can meta get your data

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[–] mojo@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago (9 children)

I agree with him completely, why are people so he'll bent on fear mongering this? The worst possible outcome is that the fedi will... be exactly the same as it is now lol.

Meta doesn't care about the Fedi population, they're not even 1% of their userbase, and they know that the fedi crowd is one of the most anti people of their network.

There is no embrace-extend-extinguish. If Meta starts to change up the ActivityPub protocol and then make it proprietary, then networks like Lemmy and Mastodon will just stay on the original one. They can't force the fedi to follow, and they know this.

They can't inject ads or data scrape more then they already can. Your public info is already public, which can be assumed that it can and is being scraped. This exact comment is one of them. They can scrape your info the exact same as they can now.

This will introduce more people to the concept of the fedi and they'll be more willing to migrate to other platforms like Mastodon/Lemmy when they understand the concept better. This is only a good thing for the population, and we won't lose any to the new network as stated before.

So at that point, what is a single downside of this? You can even just instance block them if you still dont like it, so it won't even affect you then.

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[–] Kururin@talk.kururin.tech 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Da heck? Do we have a FB shill?

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I say we counter EEE with FFF: deFedereate, Forget, Fuck 'em.

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