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[–] Technus@lemmy.zip 102 points 6 months ago (3 children)

My friends and I still use TS3. The audio quality and voice activation is better than Discord's, and the desktop app doesn't take ten fucking gigabytes of RAM to run.

[–] sub_ubi@lemmy.ml 33 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Good to hear ts3 is still rockin.

If you use discord, access with a web browser. No need to ever download discord the app

[–] Traister101@lemmy.today 13 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Nah bro that's just the memory leaks, your supposed to force close and reopen it every so often so the OS cleans up after their shitty application

[–] starman@programming.dev 18 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Memory is cheap nowadays, so that's a feature /s

[–] Hexarei@programming.dev 5 points 6 months ago

I bought the whole RAM, I'm gonna use the whole RAM

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[–] Strider@lemmy.world 67 points 6 months ago (3 children)

It seems many don't remember why there was a ts2 mass extinction. It was because of the horrendous ts3 licensing.

Why the masses went to yet another closed system like discord I'll never understand while being very satisfied with mumble/murmur.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

The absolute largest group of players in any game stuck with Mumble. That would be The Goonswarm Federation in EvE Online. We have just over 25,000 people, and well over 100,000 characters in the Alliance. In fact, AFAIK, all of the major alliances have to use Mumble because it allows more than 100 people in a room

[–] summerof69@lemm.ee 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Don't you have to host Mumble somewhere? With Discord anyone can create a server and invite friends for free with no technical knowledge required. That's a huge plus. I also remember RadCall was a thing for a while, at least where I am from.

[–] Strider@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yes, you need to run the service somewhere. But anyone can do so (Foss).

With discord my experience is limited but I currently understand it's a service model so you're dependant on a company, which can pull the same sh*t teamspeak did at any time.

Not needing any technical knowledge just means someone else is running it, possibly being able to lock you in. And in the case of discord, you already are locked in and have to accept whatever they think up.

At some point, monetization will take over.

[–] summerof69@lemm.ee 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I don't think that people are trying to find an eternal solution. Nothing lasts forever. When Discord turns to shit, something else will take its place. There is no need to worry about that when it offers too many advantages today.

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[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 38 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Once Discord embraces enshittification, we will meet again. :)

[–] uis@lemm.ee 15 points 6 months ago

Mumble better

[–] Rookeh@startrek.website 14 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Discord enshittification is well under way, just this week I have started seeing ads in the client just above the voice channel status in the bottom left. Cancelled my Nitro immediately, no point if they are going to shove ads in my face anyway.

Currently looking at alternatives, Revolt looks promising, and can be self hosted.

[–] Blisterexe@lemmy.zip 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

[Matrix] is the most promising option right noe, having an ecosystem and eee

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[–] raptore39@lemm.ee 12 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Ironic that traditionally Nitro makes things happen faster, probably in this case as well

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[–] toastal@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

No need when you have free software Mumble + Murmur :)

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[–] twinnie@feddit.uk 31 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Shit, that’s a real post. The whole account is just talking about how nobody uses TeamSpeak anymore.

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[–] cerement@slrpnk.net 24 points 6 months ago (6 children)
[–] Amaltheamannen@lemmy.ml 14 points 6 months ago

Vi sitter här på venten och spelar lite DOTA

[–] RiQuY@lemm.ee 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)
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[–] Hootz@lemmy.ca 23 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Used teamspeak untill me and my crew switched to mumble. They all use discord now though so fuck the traitors.

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[–] toastal@lemmy.ml 23 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Here I am self-hosting Mumble for friends & using Mumble at work. Old tech was built to actually be good on resources.

[–] rmuk@feddit.uk 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

+1 for Mumble. I set up a load of Android PoC devices with a Mumble server and it's honestly like having walkie-talkies that work over the Intertubes.

[–] toastal@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 months ago

My phone has extra buttons, so I use the camera shutter for hardware push-to-talk

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 21 points 6 months ago

No joke last time I launched team speak was scary lmao. I didn't have my server anymore so my buddies and I joined a random one. As we were chilling and gaming random people joined in and called us the n word and then left over the course of our session lol definitely felt like a 360 CoD lobby

[–] BenchpressMuyDebil@szmer.info 16 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Mumble is super popular with EVE Online players still, no? Because of the support for a large number of users in a single room

[–] r00ty@kbin.life 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I remember moving to mumble from teams peak because it allowed pretty cool levels of configuration.

Back in the late 00s and early 00s I was doing world of warcraft raiding. I had the server setup to have one key for main raid and another to talk to only officers. Quite useful especially in bigger raids.

Also as I recall for any remotely large ts server you needed to pay. The self hosted one was always gimped. Mumble you could self host with no limits.

[–] gwen@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 6 months ago

teams peak real

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[–] Zkuld@lemmy.world 15 points 6 months ago (1 children)

people will come back if the bloat/ad-trend of discord continues... hopefully?

[–] Ozzy@lemmy.ml 7 points 6 months ago (6 children)

nah I'll just continue to mod my client until the death of it. If discord ever decides to ban mods, then most likely yeah I'll move. Default discord is so fucking bloated and unusable.

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[–] Frostbeard@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago

Multiplay.co.uk stopped offering servers, and Discord was all new, bright and shiny so we switched to Disc. Was sad to see it go tbh

[–] wookiestackhouse@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago

I'm absolutely still using teamspeak. Nice and light, and it let's us run a soundboard plugin that let's you have unlimited length audio clips. I just wish they'd update the plugin to support the 64-bit version.

[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 12 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Me, the mystery dude in the game server who doesn't have a mic, doesn't use any voice features, never text chats, but always shows up and plays.

[–] Retrograde@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

Omg.. he finally speaks

[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 6 months ago (2 children)

drop version 5 and people might start fucking using it again.

Mumble even though it's literally dead, is a better platform.

Matrix and XMPP both support this shit also. This is literally a skill issue.

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[–] Bahnd@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago (7 children)

I still self host my TS3 for my nerd herd, and as an EvE online player (currently trying to win, but thats hard), you have to be fluent in all voip solutions as they all have different requirments and say a lot about your group.

Discord - small group, utilizing free services, may have an auth tool, used to keep in contact with people from old groups. Remember kids, if the product is free, you are the product

TS3 - mid-sized group (100-1000 players) requires a real IT team, will have an authentication system and generally will have their shit together. Ease of set up is handy, but admin user accounts can break servers.

Mumble - Welcome to the big leagues. (1K+ players) The resources you require now require resources in meat-space and are rather substantial. You need real IT security and people on a payroll. It will drive your admins nuts for about a week setting everything up, but once its done, you wont have to touch it again.

Ventrilo - old school WoW player...

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[–] jawa21@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 6 months ago (5 children)

The real question is: How in the world did Ventrillo continue to exist after TeamSpeak came along?

Vent was an object lesson in hostile UX. It sounded like shit, changing any kind of setting (even basic things like individual volumes) was a a gymnastics routine, and mics constantly clipped despite settings.

[–] yuri@pawb.social 8 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Vi sitter här i venten och spelar lite DotA...

it’s gonna be stuck in my head all day now

[–] Flyswat@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 months ago

I hear you man

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[–] ThirdWorldOrder@lemm.ee 4 points 6 months ago

A lot of WoW people used vent and so people just used what they were used to

[–] iamjackflack@lemm.ee 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Unpopular opinion, ventrilo was better than team speak. It didn’t sound like crap especially when you had good server codecs and it was extremely easy to use and lightweight.

[–] morbidcactus@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 months ago

I don't think that's unpopular at all, I only ever used vent in highschool and uni, some of the groups I ran with even went back to vent from TS becauae of the sound quality. It was simple and easy to use and pretty much everyone had it.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Vent was super lightweight, and easy to use. It's why it lasted so long.

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[–] DawnOfRiku@lemm.ee 4 points 6 months ago

Still hosting TS as the primary place my friends record things because of the audio quality and especially reliability compared to Discord, but not so much for hangouts anymore. Got Mumble in the back pocket in case the licensing goes to crap though

[–] oscardejarjayes@hexbear.net 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

just for ARMA stuff, like ACRE

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