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cross-posted from: https://lemmit.online/post/2665723

Russian Air Force Has Lost 10 Percent of Fleet in Ukraine

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The original was posted on /r/ukrainianconflict by /u/Level_Ruin_9729 on 2024-04-15 06:25:11.

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[–] Streetlights@lemmy.world 28 points 7 months ago

Send more Patriots. Gotta pump those numbers up.

[–] OwlPaste@lemmy.world 22 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

10% is really really poor... Ukraine needs more and better AA, not just hand me downs

[–] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The problem is Russian jets have the range to just fire from within their own airspace.

[–] OwlPaste@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Surely with all the NATO funding there is a solution to this problem, certainly against weaker countries US and coalitions have managed to take down enemy planes. So either there is a solution for this or we are pretty fucked in Europe too

[–] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Ukraine likely have the capability to shoot them down its just shooting down planes deep inside russian airspace is quite a large escalation.

[–] Hobbes@startrek.website 12 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago

Is this 10% of their modern Air Force or as a whole? I'm waiting for them to bring out turbo props.

[–] ThrowawayPermanente@sh.itjust.works 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

On a log scale we're halfway there

[–] LordOfTheChia@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

There's a thing called organizational death spiral. You don't have to down 100% of aircraft to cripple the Russian Air Force.

The less planes they have, the more they have to use the same aircraft, the more airframe stress that accumulates on those airframes, the fewer aircraft they have to rotate in during repairs and maintenance.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2024/02/29/shooting-down-11-russian-jets-in-11-days-ukraine-nudges-the-russian-air-force-closer-to-an-organizational-death-spiral/

Also:

https://breakingdefense.com/2023/10/russias-air-force-eating-into-aircraft-lifespans-with-no-easy-solution/

Modern Russian aircraft are designed for a 3,500 and 4,500 flight hour service life, and some for as many as 6,000. But the Soviet-era platforms were designed for 2,000 to 3,500 hours. Some models, such as the MiG-31, have been upgraded to extend service life, but most of the older models are nearing the end of their service lives with only 500 to 1,000 hours remaining.

Inject this straight into my veins

[–] zabadoh@ani.social 6 points 7 months ago

They're hanging their motto to "We're doing better than the Russian Navy!"

[–] eran_morad@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

Fuck the blyats