Rust > PHP
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Yes….on a technical level. But the picture is bigger than that. Personally, I have a hunch that the choice of Rust is making Lemmy’s development slower. This seemed to be evidenced by the fact that Kbin has as much if not more functionality than Lemmy while having only been around for 2 months vs Lemmy’s 4 years. The Kbin dev has also been much more able to fix things on the fly during the surge in users. Whereas Lemmy will supposedly move off websocket use any day now.
Adoptability isn’t something to be discounted. The fact that there are many more people out there familiar with PHP may give Kbin an edge over time. And let’s be honest, in real-world tests PHP can very often be faster then any less-than-mature-Rust codebase.
I was curious about Kbin until I read this comment.
Learned about Lemmy from Reddit but never heard of kbin until recently. That said, I like the name Lemmy a lot more than the name kbin. kbin sounds like a hex editor for KDE, not a Reddit alternative. I love the open source community, but sometimes the names of projects leave much to be desired. Lemmy isn't the perfect name but it's more memorable than kbin.
kbin sounds like a hex editor for KDE
That's what I needed to hear today. genius
Speaking about names. What the hell is a "magazine"?? It's like the kbin devs went out of their way to ensure they named everything to be as confusing to outsiders as possible.
Kind of like how Lemmy made up communities? Lol you don’t call microblogs “toots” either. Seems every fediverse software has their own terminology.
Also it’s dev, singular. Kbin has been put together by only one dev. I personally find that damn impressive considering it’s functionally on par with Lemmy being only 2 months old to Lemmy’s 4 years.
Holy shit it all makes sense now! I’ve been seeing posts and comments randomly talking about magazines for ages now with absolutely no idea what any of them are going on about. Didn’t realise it was a Kbin thing. That’s one of the downsides of Federation I suppose, sometimes shit just gets weird.
I literally chose Lemmy instead of kbin because kbin sounds like a KDE app.
I've tried both. Here are some thoughts.
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I like the more sorting options by different time points like last 6 or 12 hours on Kbin.
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Seems easier to find Lemmy subs on Kbin that it is to find Kbin subs on Lemmy.
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I don't like that I can't see what Kbin defederates from like I can on Lemmy.
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I'm wary of large instances on the fediverse because of stability and being a potential target for defederation due to size (such as mastodon social).
What a difference, we can talk to each other :F
I liked both but ultimately joined Lemmy over kbin because it seems like there's more interest in building mobile apps for Lemmy. (Currently using Jerboa) Also like that my Lemmy instance is based on renewable energy which is nice.
I think lemmy looks nicer visually. I'll probably give kbin a try at some point.
It was the first one I knew about and I haven't had a reason to switch over. I already knew about lemmy long before all of the reddit drama happened, so that was where I went a few days before the blackout. I had never even heard of kbin until after I'd already been on lemmy for a while. Also, rust > php, and calling communities "magazines" is weird.
I'll agree that calling communities "magazines" is weird.
The word reminds me of outdated (and overpriced) print periodicals or ammo holders. They may as well call them 8-tracks or cassettes. Maybe the word will evolve. "Sub" took on it's own meaning after Reddit.
"Fetch" still isn't happening, so we'll see.
Idk i just heard of lemmy first
I can't signup for lemmy, the submit wheel spins and spins
@jerome I tried making one (so I can test out apps when they start coming out in case they don't support my preference, kbin) and I was having that issue all day. I finally made one about an hour ago, just keep trying... I think they're having a hard time handling the traffic atm.
I'm in both, so...
Same. I’ve noticed that federation isn’t always complete so you may as well be in both, at least for now
I like both. Currently on kbin because of the All bug on lemmy. My aim is to use both for a longer period.
Is that where the all section just constantly keeps loading more and more and more and you can't even use it because it's flying downwards?
I gotta say, Kbin has such a nicer UI. Lemmy has to step up a notch.
I found a specific Lemmy instance that I wanted to join. For what I use it for the format suits me better but if not for this instance I probably would've been on kbin just cuz it seems easier to interact with mastodon through it
I tried Kbin and its way harder for me somehow searching other federated instanced content on Kbin than on lemmy.
It feels like for Kbin you need to go first to lets say Lemmy.world and then check the list and copy the names of each then search it.
on any lemmy instance i can simply search the things and find stuff of other instances way easier.
also Lemmy is like WAY bigger of user base posts and comments.
The syntax is slightly different in Kbin: @community
Also, you need to do it from the all magazines search bar.
That made it work.
Started on lemmy. Haven’t gotten annoyed yet and can’t currently be bothered to try yet another new thing.
What’s a kbin?
Think of it like Lemmy but with a different UI plus the ability to "tweet" on mastodon. I'm commenting from kbin right now, we can all see the same posts because it's federated.
Honestly, I just like the UI better.
At the end of the day that’s a large reason to choose any of the federated platforms because as it matures we will seamlessly be able to communicate with each other. Be it Mastadon, Kbin, Lemmy, Pixelfed etc.
That’s what I love about federation. It won’t matter what platform we are on, we just choose the one that looks the best for us and can talk to EVERYBODY. It wouldn’t surprise me if down the road there is a better universal alternative that shows Mastodon, Lemmy/Kbin, Pixelfed content in their original format all in one instance (could be like tabs or all in one feed). I would personally use that but if anyone just wants to see posts in a Lemmy-like format they have the power to choose.
I'm in both, but I'm a Reddit refugee looking for a similar experience. 99% of my Reddit's time was through the RIF app and Jeroba looks and feels the same, so currently I only use lemmy.
I wouldn't mind switching over to kbin if it gets better in the future since I can read everything from anywhere.
I feel like Lemmy has more content, probably because it's been around longer, so it's a good base to build from.
I'm also giving an answer to the other thread on Kbin, since I think there are good reasons to use that one as well. They're both solid, and I'm using both regularly--often viewing posts from one service on the other. For me, it's "yes AND," not "no BUT."
Genuine question here, how can Lemmy have more content if it’s all federated? Wouldn’t Kbin, despite being much younger, have all the same content?
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