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Thank you for this and also for all the delicious Italian food.

Hmm, I don't think I'm with you. You say men are incels because they're poor and can't find a girl. From what I've seen, they can't find a girl because of deeply rooted, misogynistic beliefs that turn people off. If also like to see your citation for wage stagnation affecting men more than women, because every study I've seen says the wage gap has stayed the same or widened in the last few years. I know many, many men who aren't the strong hunter gatherer type and have loving wives or girlfriends. The difference is those guys aren't assholes.

because we’ve created

"we"? no, not "we". men who feel entitled to being treated like they're god's gift to life by virtue of having a dick have created it for themselves.

These men choose to turn to toxic masculinity and to the manosphere (an echo chamber of toxic masculinity) rather than choose therapy and self-improvement because they are too selfish and lazy to work on improving themselves and their lives. They want a rich fulfilling life handed to them on a platter and fawned on by adoring slaves who they should be free to abuse at will.

They choose to be incels because they feel they can get away with treating women as lesser beings. And when they face any consequence for their actions they paint themelves as victims belonging to a social underclass, when they're anything but.

This sounds like a list of excuses to be a fucking shitbag. You can't make money? Don't be a bitch and get a job. IF YOU CAN'T SUPPORT YOURSELF that is not a woman's problem. That is your problem. Is modern society too hard for you? Pretty sure humans have thousands of years of evolution dealing with actual existential threats of starvation and surviving the elements that most of humanity overcame. Now your bills are too much and it's driving you to beating the fuck out of women? Fuck off with that shit.

Fuck yeah we can do a lot better as a species, but with some actual perspective of the majority of humans time on earth we have it pretty damn peachy. Sure as fuck aren't victims of some atrocious shit that justifies any of that redpill bullshit, at least on a systemic level.

People are becoming incels because a bunch of idiots got ahold of the internet and gave themselves a name and a platform to echochamber in. That is it. It would have happened, much worse, in any other time in history if they were able to organize.

I can't agree with that. Being poor is not an excuse to be a shitbag. A lot of those guys aren't even trying to change anything, they put all the blame on corporations as if it somehow makes their behavior justified, and then spend their days on incel forums.

inceldom is largely an economic issue

that's such a reach. women are lagrely more economically disadvantaged, specially when you consider that men are paid more, are not straved off of promotions due to their gender, are not discriminated because they are women. rich/well-off incels exist, they are and will remain incels despite their financial status or attractiveness. they are incels because of their misogynistic beliefs (among other horrible traits).

the internet and tate has amplified the voices of this community since they are able to congregate anonymously and with no repercussions.

It's an economic issue in as much as this is what capitalism promotes and exemplifies. Psychopaths and sociopaths rise to the top. And all the other haters fangirl over them for doing it.

Some of the happiest most satisfied people I know are poor. They just don't have the massive entitlement to other people's things.

Sorry, I'm currently one of those dudes who doesn't have a romantic partner and doesn't live what others would call a "fulfilling life". I haven't fucking decided that Andrew Tate or any of a thousand others are the guiding star of my life, nor do I feel I ever will. This idea of "society's to blame for incels" is pretty bad even on its face - most of these guys are told by these influencers (or their cultists) that they deserve not only a happy, prosperous life, but they shouldn't even have to actively work for it. According to this philosophy, they shouldn't have to go out and actively seek romance, women should be flocking to them in droves. As this does not happen, something must be fundamentally wrong with society - which is why a lot of these types also wind up spouting fascist rhetoric, and eventually fall into white supremacist pablum.

Nah man incels are just losers and Tate is just the same. I talk to my male friends all the time about difficulties I'm having I don't need to blame women for them. We haven't created s growing social underclass of men, some men are just bitching and thinking this is targetted when everyone is struggling.

This reaks of manosphere bullshit.

I believe that was just coincidental timing. Not complaining though, because it made it all much more exciting.

Preying on young women and young men. Probably being enslaved and trafficked is worse for the women than it was for the young men dragged into his sphere of influence. Thoroughly evil man.