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After all the BS from /u/spez?

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[–] LoafyLemon@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I had hope until the infamous AMA posted by spez, and him doubling down on accusing people of blackmail. I've purged my account history immediately after that.

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[–] Reygle@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I get a "sunk-cost fallacy" feel from it. Like Bill Hicks' bit went- This HAS to be real. Look at my furrows of worry- look at all this Karma. This has to be real!"

.. it's just a ride.

[–] llama@midwest.social 2 points 1 year ago

I get the reddit c suite just wants to go public and finally get their payout, which is understandable but if they're out then we're out too. There's better platforms now anyway that need a reason to be used and developed. They could have so easily handled this differently by just making the reddit app experience better than any third party apps today. But here we are and honestly I wouldn't bet my retirement that teenagers will still be posting to reddit in 40 years.

[–] LostCause@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Some people like my bf just browse for a little bit of their communities and don‘t care about anything else.

However, if we make this place interesting enough they will come naturally, those sorts of people are like moths who are attracted to interesting content.

[–] dreamfall@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I have no hope, but there are a few subs that I still love and it's sad that he is destroying that so he can make reddit like every other soul-sucking social network. reddit is unfortunately the only place I can go to discuss random things I love like the EPL, or WNBA, or the japanese show Gaki No Tsukai as no one around me in real live is into them. Hopefully some of that can transfer to lemmy or other places...but who knows...

[–] DaGuys470@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

There are about 5 years of my life on there, for some users 15+. Now, if you dropped your laptop with 15 years worth of memories on it, you damn sure would have hope you could still save the data, even if it's obviously done for.

[–] HKPiax@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Personally, I just feel bad for Apollo's creator and mods (the good ones) who spent so much time carefully taking care of a community they love, so in a sense I wish Reddit would come to their senses and axe that fucker CEO and revert to reasonable API changes. But it's mostly wishful thinking. Besides, now I would feel bad if Reddit managed to go back to being good because that would mean that this aswesome Lemmy thinghy would go back into the shadows, while it deserves so much attention imho.

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[–] g2g079@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Because there is not yet a full alternative to reddit.

[–] AskThinkingTim@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

They are just following the reactionary social media norms these days. The lack of proper passing of information and just humoured by the subreddit protests such as in r/pics. Some people are not actually on Reddit for information.

[–] The1Morrigan@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Because Reddit is familiar and people like to stick with what they're used to and comfortable with.

[–] pozbo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People like being comfortable, new places can be uncomfortable.

It's this simple. So just let them have their porn-filled garbage can of a place.

Reddit is now in the ilk of MySpace and facebook.. Corpo-wasteland devoid of anything but ad revenue and cheers from shareholders.

They can keep it.

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[–] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.fmhy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Because Reddit has been our online home for years. It's where our communities are, where are online friends are, it's become home. People have spent thousands of hours building communities there, as a labor of love.

Unfortunately I agree with you- the home is on fucking fire and unless a monsoon spontaneously erupts we should get the hell out before it burns to the ground.

[–] Semmelstulle@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

I can only repeat what I just commented somewhere else:

I built Swift apps and Mastodon or Discord are NOT a proper format to get help, Discord being crappy for archiving, too.

I have a hard time getting help by people that really know this stuff because Swift is made by Apple, and the Apple bubble tends to stick to Twitter and the likes. If enough migrate, I can finally say frick off, Reddit

[–] RegalOne@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's been my community since like 2007. It's hard to move on from all of those conversations and inside jokes because suddenly the landlord says he gets to be a part of our conversations because he owns the property despite never participating in anything besides maybe suggesting a few holiday events that the community had to make happen and execute on their own. It has nothing to do with the site. It has to do with what we created there, a lot like the street corner that used to be a thing. It's been made clear we're no longer welcome there and we'll find a new corner to hang out on. And as soon as it's user friendly enough the masses will follow. That's a mixed blessing because the same tired replies and memes will follow but the content will be there.

I'm a little drunk right now so I'm being overly sentimental, but the point remains. We miss the experiences we had, and fuck that greedy, spineless motherfucker for making us go elsewhere. But we'll do it and laugh about it the same way we used to about Digg. "Fuck Kevin Rose" was a thing the same way "Fuck u/spez" is.

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[–] sleepyducky@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Don’t underestimate how much resistance to change stops people from looking beyond the status quo. Moving away from Reddit is a clear example. I suspect a lot of lurkers from Reddit are actually from the category of Late Majority or Laggards

https://www.betterup.com/blog/resistance-to-change

https://www.liveabout.com/what-is-resistance-to-change-1918240

https://ondigitalmarketing.com/learn/odm/foundations/5-customer-segments-technology-adoption/

[–] palarith@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've being feeling that lately reddit had become full of repost bots and fake ads. Was there just because there was nowhere else to go

[–] Emanresu@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I feel a similar way. The quality just kept going down and down to the point where I couldn't tell what was real or not. Most just weren't worth reading either way. Lemmy seems the same way now too. People are focusing on making "content" instead of trying to make higher quality posts.

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[–] frantisek@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Look at the twitter. Whatever they can do people stay there. Maybe the hardcore users or geeks will leave, but the crowd will stay.

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[–] Lumidaub@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

I also still have hope for Twitter (less tho). Both concepts are good, they're just run by fucking idiots making them unusable.

[–] Stev_0@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Honestly: for my social media consumption Reddit works pretty well. I always used to webinterface so for nothing really changed.

I am here because I felt like changing things up more than anything. Well: the fediverse is a super interesting idea and looking at something fresh is always fun.

Still; it seems pretty likely that this place will be a good deal smaller than Reddit for the foreseeable future and that’s both a strength and a weakness.

The main strength of Reddit is it’s nichier subs. There is one for just about anything. You need a massive volume of users to do such a thing and I don’t think Lemmy will reach that size anytime soon.

I expect Lemmy to be a place where people value Openness and Freedom. Generally there are less people that care about Freedom AND Pu’er tea than there are people who care about just Pu’er tea.

I wonder what will happen to Lemmy in a couple of years🤔

[–] AnonymousLlama@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

The silver lining is that hopefully we can get a few people off Reddit and onto here and eventually grow these spaces. I do miss the thousands of upvotes and comments though, but that'll come in time

[–] Wiring8084@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Honestly, it's an information goldmine. You'll get answers to most obscure questions and in detail. All others sources on the internet are either fluff or endorsements. It it also inconvenient to have to visit two websites that does same thing. So people don't want to abandon what they are habituated to.

[–] Kumori@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Because no matter how bad it gets, like all successful social platforms, it will stay successful. People will continue to use it no matter how much they complain or criticize it. I regularly complain about Facebook, Twitter, TikTok, etc. But I still use all of them. It doesn't matter how unsatisfied people are with how things are being handled, if most people still see a reason to use it, they will until it's gone.

[–] seriousslayerguy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I just hope there's no power trippin edgelords - toxic sweaty mods here. And whoever is in charge(like a CEO) I hope is also a normal human being. All I ask from you is to work with the community not against it.

[–] DarkenLM@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

That is easily solvable within the fediverse, contrary to reddit. In reddit you had to kinda deal with it. Here, people can simply fuck off to another instance.

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[–] nightscout@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

For people who were more than just the causal browser/lurker, Reddit was an amazing place to not only obtain information about very specific things, but also to connect with other people. I have type 1 diabetes and the ability to connect with other type 1 diabetics to commiserate, share information, and seek help on Reddit was like nothing else anywhere else on the internet. I have a few other niche interests that also only had communities on Reddit.

Years ago, these things (health conditions, niche interests, etc) all had their own separate forums scattered throughout the internet. One forum might have a few dozen people, one might have a hundred or so. But Reddit quickly became the central place where we could connect. Whereas forums could maybe attract a few hundred people, subreddits could connect with THOUSANDS. There’s not yet been anything else like it.

Unfortunately, we made the BIG mistake of relying on a for-profit, centrally owned company to function as a town square. Same with Twitter. We found value in sharing information and connecting through these platforms, only to get screwed over by billionaire CEOs.

Hopefully we have learned our lesson. Hopefully something comparable will take Reddit’s place. It’s not going to happen over time. I never expected Mastodon to replace Twitter overnight. But slowly, very slowly, at least some people are seeing the downfall of corporate social media and will hopefully slowly switch over to federated alternatives. I don’t think it will happen quickly, nor will it happen for everything. But I do think it’s already happening. And it will happen faster if we get some good mobile apps.

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