I guess I got to be the first year to say it: this is fucking horrible, and we have to do everything we can in our power to stop this.
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The comment directly below this one reads like propaganda straight from Moscow. I'm very glad to see it down-voted. Blaming blatant authoritarianism and extremely dangerous rhetoric on "old people" seems like a pretty obvious diversion from the actual culprits: the entire Republican party who is sleepwalking into a legit second coup attempt. They're losing political power and have abandoned the idea of democracy. The fact that they're unable or unwilling to drown this Nazi rhetoric in the bathtub speaks volumes. They are openly supporting authoritarianism. Not "old people". Republicans.
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Posobiec, who helped popularize the “Pizzagate” conspiracy theory, appeared at CPAC’s opening day on Wednesday. He spoke during a panel moderated by former White House adviser and white supremacist Steve Bannon.
They’re not sending their brightest, folks. Many such examples.
Seriously though, I didn’t have a pizzagate guy openly advocating fascism at CPAC on my doomsday bingo card, yet here we are.
There's a non-zero chance that they actually are sending their brightest.
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"We didn’t get all the way there on January 6, but we will endeavor to get rid of it and replace it with this, right here,” he said, gesturing to the crowd and holding up his fist.
Isn't it the way to get some alphabet agency on your ass? Dude doesn't only speak Jan 6 was a coup, he encourage people to do it again.
It's unbelievable that someone says this AND it is found to far exceed the speech and debate clause AND is held to account.
But then, most authoritarian leaders are initially I stalled under cheers of their own population. And mostly people know what they are voting for. The MAGA crowd seems to just be more open about it.
Just recently Indonesia voted for a guy who literally murdered his fellow countrymen as head of a special forces unit. But the youth think his TikTok dance is Soo cute, so they vote for the sweet grandpa with the cute dance. I hope they will be alright.
But the youth think his TikTok dance is Soo cute, so they vote for the sweet grandpa with the cute dance.
Excuse me, wtf, how it's even real: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dRF4nUIRAAA
Prabowo is a fucking monster, and much like other worldwide monsters, he was trained at Fort Bragg by US special forces.
Then even The US said "This guy is too war crimey even for us. We're going to deport you, but do keep in touch. Especially about those East Timor rebels. They look suspiciously anti-capitalist".
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Sir this is a conservative oligarchy not a Wendy's. Rules are only for anyone we declare to be too far left.
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Republicans are criminals, cheaters, liars and traitors.
And I have proof, just watch and listen to everything they do.
They HATE America and want to rule it with a sick 2000 year old genocidal religion.
Always vote for the candidate to does things to help Americans, and chooses human rights over fascist control laws.
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Isn't this what the second amendment is actually for?
And the way the winds blowing is why the #1 demographic for first time firearm purchasers throughout covid has been liberals.
The second amendment tells you what it's for - militias. But what are militias for? The constitution tells us that too.
Article I, Section 8, Clause 15: [The Congress shall have Power . . . ] To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions.
So, no, the second amendment is about a system to suppress insurrections, not commit them. You've been lied to.
We have revolutions every 2-4 years. Insurrections are not about the will of the people, they are about subverting the will of the people.
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I used to get scared to talk about weed on the phone. You don't disparage a public figure with a hint of violence for fear...
How TF is this not enough to lock these motherfuckers up? This is the God damn United States of America and these treasonists are threatening our government. Fuck "soft Democrats" - this isn't about policy. These criminals are promising a coup against our democracy. Why aren't they in jail? I'm seriously asking. Where the fuck is law enforcement????
There are a bunch of Supreme Court rulings which basically said the KKK can advocate for violence in general so long as they don't lay out specifics. That's what these folks hide behind
Well, as long as they're abiding by the rigorous standards of the KKK then. Clearly an upstanding group of people to emulate.
Holy shit. When was that??
The biggie is Brandenburg vs Ohio, from 1969
Where that really falls down is when you have social media algorithms selectively showing inflammatory speech to the audience most likely to act on it. This means that inflammatory speech which wouldn't have caused violence in the 1960s is incredibly likely to do so now.
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Time to start killing fascists.
Italian here, sometimes I wonder why we ever stopped, it should be an ongoing thing
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Wonder what they’d do if we started proclaiming and raucously celebrating “The End of the Republic”.
Lmao I can imagine some of them are thinking democracy = democrats.
Republicans, the party of treason.
"That probably sounded better in the original German." -- Molly Ivins.
I'll take him at his word. I don't doubt he'd follow through with what he's saying.
But also the headline sucks. He has a heavy sarcasm to his voice like he's mocking liberal's and the media's portrayal of him and "rabid cheers" isn't how I would describe the sound of the reaction in the video.
Yeah this is the same kind of thing they did at another one of these events in the past with the whole "Ladies and gentlemen, we are all domestic terrorists." thing. It was meant as a joke to make fun of what the liberals were saying but at the same time it wasn't entirely inaccurate.
How the fuck is this a thing
They want a crowd and they cheer the thrill of battle. Because they believe they are on the right side.
I still can't understand how the political left could accept that their opponents dub themselves "right". Do they not understand that "right" also means "correct"? It's a marketing failure from the get go, regardless of etymology. We should start calling the political right something different, like "wrong". Or "party of assholes". Change my view.
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Does anyone have a link to this actual speech, whenever I hear something this damning, I assume something is wildly out of context.
Here you go.
LIVE REPLAY: CPAC Day Two 4:48:38
edit: never mind, that is his CPAC speech where he promises to destroy to democracy
edit: People only seem to be reporting on the clip linked in the article that was of the panel in that conference room. There doesn't seem to be a recording of the entire panel online currently.
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These idiots probably only associate democracy with democrats so they cheer
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200 years ago, there would be a rope shortage right about now.
A great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself from within.
- Will Durant
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Basically MAGA Republicans showing their true faces. They know that they don't have much of a future without cheating or dropping democracy altogether.
They are taking themselves down.
This should disqualify any of these people running. These are treasonous bastards who should not be allowed to participate in democratic elections.
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