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I'm really enjoying lemmy. I think we've got some growing pains in UI/UX and we're missing some key features (like community migration and actual redundancy). But how are we going to collectively pay for this? I saw an (unverified) post that Reddit received 400M dollars from ads last year. Lemmy isn't going to be free. Can someone with actual server experience chime in with some back of the napkin math on how expensive it would be if everyone migrated from Reddit?

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[โ€“] pre@fedia.io 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@psylancer If you got 100 million users so that it's costing 400 million dollars a year, then ideally you need one million servers with 100 users on each. They need to all pass around a hat between their 100 users to raise the 50 dollars in server costs a month.

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[โ€“] howdy@thesimplecorner.org 5 points 1 year ago

I'm running a barebones server for myself and a few communities (not many subs yet) which will run for less than a Starbucks coffee a month... (Assuming I don't need more storage space... Lemmy seems pretty light. The main servers are gonna carry the load unfortunately... Beehaw.org had a transparency post about financials as of about a week ago they said something that their instance was costing like 50-75ish a month of I recall.

[โ€“] emstuff@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 year ago

donations to my favorite instances, like wikipedia i hope :)

[โ€“] LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lemmy is never going to handle an entire migration of reddit's whole user base. Most redditors use the official app, and the mainstream audience for the platform now represents the largest user group. They're not going to wholesale make the jump to Lemmy. That wouldn't even be possible without widespread coordination of resources. Each instance can only handle so many users, so new instances will have to continually be created to accommodate influx. Theres no profit incentive either, meaning whoever is running the instance server is purely doing it out of their passion for the platform. That doesn't scale linearly, there's only so many people out there with the resources to run a large instance.

Measuring the cost isn't possible. It depends on electricity and equipment costs which vary a lot. And the question doesn't make sense either.

[โ€“] Lemmington@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 year ago

They're probably the sorts of people that would drive down the quality of content here, so no great loss anyway.

[โ€“] httpjames@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Personally I plan on donating the price of Reddit Premium to my instance owner

[โ€“] Barbarian@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Whenever he figures out donations that is :))

I don't know what kinda person happens to have a massive server cluster sitting around waiting to go, but @TheDude is the dude, and the dude abides.

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[โ€“] octet33@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The thing is, Lemmy is decentralized. You don't need to have an account on an instance (server) to use that instance's "subreddits" (communities) - instances communicate their activity to each other automatically, so any instance will do (provided the instances haven't banned each other). It's just like email.

So it's pretty simple to just stop accepting sign-ups once an instance starts to become impractically large. Anyone can start an instance for just the cost of a domain ($10ish/year, or free if it's a subdomain of an existing website) and a server (that random computer you already have lying around will do just fine, for free). And a small instance can do fine on just donations and the good will of the operator.

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[โ€“] Krusty@feddit.it 2 points 1 year ago

There already is a question similar to this. You can find lots of ideas there :)

You can always have paid-access Lemmy servers

[โ€“] torknorggren@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)
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[โ€“] Valmond@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd love hosting a chunk on my anyways online Linux box (and if it was easy I could put up another junk box or two (like i3-i5 8GB 256GB-512GB/1-4TB) if it fits on a 1Gb ethernet line, but I admit I don't have the time (/energy) for all the stuff around (I'd do backups) especially if the hardware breaks or there are troll infestations etc.

Before the whole world migrates to Lemmy, maybe we could hold on by teaming up in some way.

Maybe my shard should be about doing just that, and hopefully people wanting to set up 'lemmys' could gather and share experiences and help.

Thoughts?

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[โ€“] reric88@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

Donate to the devs!

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