This should be illegal
this post was submitted on 17 Jan 2024
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Note that isn't illegal, it just means the company doesn't get to get out of paying unemployment when it happens. And that's only if someone is willing to challenge them on it.
You don't "challenge them on it". You just file for unemployment.
They have to prove it's not constructive dismissal to the unemployment department. No, the government arbiter will not like Apple claiming it's not a hardship. This is a slam dunk case and may result in a fine due to the WARN act.
This is essentially a layoff. Employees signed employment contracts to work in a particular location. You can't just move that location out of the local area.
"I'd rather be dead in California than alive in Texas." - Lucille Bluth
Arizona* Lucille wouldn’t even joke about moving to Texas
It’s just sneaky layoffs through attrition. Honestly these are work from home jobs (listen and evaluate recorded snippets) so there’s no other reason to make them move.
Tax laws. Thats why they want them to move to Texas.
“No.”
California has some pretty decent laws tilted to employees, I’m curious how this will shake out.
didnt they just build some billion dollar donut they cant fill?
Reason #437 to unionize
I would have thought there would be a lot more of them by this point
Anybody at Apple will have half a dozen offers by the end of the week if they tell LinkedIn they're open to new opportunities.
A couple years ago, sure! Today, the entire tech sector is downsizing.
It's a bit of a weird time. The big guys cut thousands of jobs last year, but if you were willing to go to anything that wasn't FAANG, there were jobs everywhere.
I had ~5 offers within a month of being laid off last spring.
AANF(M) engineers can still write their own check generally speaking.
I still get random emails from companies offering me job interviews every week and I haven't been searching for jobs in over 5 years. The amount coming from the massive companies like Amazon and Google have plummeted, but I still get an email from one of those every few months asking if I want to talk.
Hopefully not without moving assistance. I can't imagine that people can just pick up stakes and move 3 states away!
Especially to fucking texas. I couldn't handle that political 180. It's why I moved away from the south and back to MN.
It’s Austin…
Yes it's Austin, but Greg "let them drown" Abbott is still the governor in Austin too...
Let's not forget about Senator Ted "if it gets too damn cold, join me in Cancun" Cruz... The whole state is led by political winners.
Oh is abortion not banned in Austin but only the rest of the state? That's a relief.
I'm somewhat a fanboy of Apple but this would ruin it for me. No way you could get me to step into the state with the lowest quality of personal liberties in the country.
Take the severance, then get a job somewhere else near home. They’ve worked for Apple—the world is their oyster