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I'll go first. Mine is that I can't stand the Deadpool movies. They are self aware and self referential to an obnoxious degree. It's like being continually reminded that I am in a movie. I swear the success of that movie has directly lead to every blockbuster having to have a joke every 30 seconds

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[–] Labotomized@lemmy.world 128 points 11 months ago (8 children)

Films where I don’t recognize a single actor among the whole crew are almost always better than ones where I’ve seen such and such actor in other movies. Just more immersive. And even if they’re not the best actors I’d much prefer that over whatever the hell Chris Prat or Tom Cruise or Leo D are up to.

[–] ValiantDust@feddit.de 43 points 11 months ago (4 children)

I knew being faceblind must have some benefit. I often only realise I know an actor when I see their name in the credits. Then again it can take me half a movie to realise there are two men with dark hair, a beard and glasses, so I wouldn't entirety recommend it.

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[–] Eylrid@lemmy.world 22 points 11 months ago (2 children)

So many well known actors play themselves playing the character.

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[–] Nibodhika@lemmy.world 74 points 11 months ago (26 children)

Terminator is better than Terminator 2, and as cool as it is Terminator 2 should never have been made (or should have a different script).

I know the mob is raising the pitchfork, but hear me out, there are two main ways time travel can solve the grandparent paradox, these are Singular Timeline (i.e. something will prevent you from killing your grandfather) or Multiple Timeline (you kill him but in doing so you created an alternate timeline). Terminator 2 is clearly a MT model, because they delay the rise of Skynet, but Terminator is a ST movie. The way you can understand it's an ST is because the cause-consequences form a perfect cycle (which couldn't happen on an MT story), i.e. Reese goes back to save Sarah -> Reese impregnates Sarah and teaches her how to defend herself from Terminators and avoid Skynet -> Sarah gives birth to and teaches John -> John uses the knowledge to start a resistance -> The resistance is so strong that Skynet sends a Terminator back in time to kill Sarah -> Reese goes back to save Sarah...

The awesome thing about Terminator is how you only realise this at the end of the Movie, that nothing they did mattered, because that's what happened before, the timeline is fixed, humanity will suffer but they'll win eventually.

If Terminator was a MT then the cycle breaks, i.e. there needs to be a beginning, a first time around when the original timeline didn't had any time travelers. How did that timeline looked like? John couldn't exist, which means that sending a Terminator back in time to kill Sarah was not possible, Reese couldn't have gone back without the Terminator technology, which they wouldn't have unless the resistance was winning, and if they are winning without John, the Terminator must have gone back to kill someone else and when Reese went back he accidentally found Sarah, impregnated her and coincidentally made a better commander for the resistance which accidentally and created a perfect loop so that next time he would be sent back and meet Sarah because she was the target (what are the odds of that). Then why is the movie not about this? Why is the movie about the Nth loop after the timeline was changed? The reason is that Terminator was thought as a ST movie, but when they wanted to write a sequel they for some reason decided to allow changes in the timeline which broke the first movie.

[–] jrbaconcheese@yall.theatl.social 31 points 11 months ago

I love T2 so I’m simply upvoting your passion for T1.

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[–] qooqie@lemmy.world 70 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (10 children)

Horror films are where art flourishes and it has a huge culture of being outside of Hollywood which is just a plus. Also the acting is usually way better

[–] dmention7@lemm.ee 28 points 11 months ago

I'm not sure whether to update or downvote. The first sentence doesnt seem too controversial, but hoo boy you nailed it on the second lol

Screw it, upvoted.

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[–] Stamets@lemmy.world 58 points 11 months ago (28 children)

I like The Last Jedi.

That should be controversial enough.

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 26 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I think this is more popular than you think. Most serious SW fans appreciate Rian Johnson's attempt to take the franchise somewhere it had never been before, storytelling-wise, and the shitty retcon-fest that was ROS seems to have made it better by comparison. I've seen plenty of people online say it's the best aged film out of the sequel films.

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[–] SCB@lemmy.world 48 points 11 months ago (16 children)

Interstellar is a terrible movie that doesn't say or do anything special and I still don't understand why anyone thinks it's so amazing.

I did really like the robot guy though.

[–] Pyroglyph@lemmy.world 24 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Interstellar is one of my favourite movies, yet I can definitely say it's not perfect. Hell, it's got a few massive plot holes and the ending leaves a lot to be desired. Saying that, I still enjoyed it. I love the visuals, the BTS stuff is interesting, but most of all it made me feel. That's what I value in media. Other people may value a coherent plot, historical accuracy, or a myriad of other things. We all like/dislike things for different reasons, and that's okay.

I also agree that TARS was very cool.

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[–] Hyperreality@kbin.social 48 points 11 months ago (11 children)

Tarantino is overrated. You have to watch a lot of movies to come to this realisation, because otherwise you don't realise his movies are often in large part a collage of other movies. Movies which did what he does better. That means that it doesn't actually matter that Tarantino is overrated for most movie goers. More generally, this is why critics' opinions don't actually matter that much. They've watched too many movies and likely know too much about movies, to tell the average audience goer if they'll enjoy a movie.

Once you've watched a few thousand movies, and especially if you've ever studied film or read a few books about it, you'll often find you enjoy interesting but shit movies more, than very well made but unoriginal movies. People who truly love film, invariably aren't snobs. They enjoy absolute trash, they enjoy arty farty stuff. If someone has a related degree or even a doctorate or works in the industry, the likelihood is high that they're also a fan of B-movies. They don't need to pretend to be knowledgeable, because they are. A film snob will bore you with the details of a Tarkovski movie. A cinephile is more likely to bang on about 80s horror movies, lesbian vampire sexploitation movies, Albert Pyun's Cyborg, or Troma's The Toxic Avenger.

[–] Quazatron@lemmy.world 26 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I enjoy Tarantino movies. It all boils down to: are they solid fun entertainment or not, and to me the answer is yes.

Someone else did it better elsewhere? Sure, and he is very forthcoming about his influences. So if you're a fan, you'll likely find his sources and enjoy those too. Win win.

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[–] fireweed@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago (5 children)

This is how I've come to view anime. You can tell the age of an anime fan by whether they're enamored by the latest hit series or they sigh and go "this is just a remake of [old series from the 90s/00s]." I don't give a shit how well made a series is; if the premise is "been there done that" without an original take or twist, or a tired and worn trope gets trotted out (looking at you, every fucking series that includes a scene where a female character comments enviously on another female character's large breasts, yes Frieren that means you), then I'm insta-jaded on the series. At a certain point you realize anime relies heavily on its perpetual fandom refresh, with new fans replacing the ones who "aged out." For me, I knew it had gotten bad when I was struggling to enjoy Cyberpunk because I felt like I had heard all the voices before in previous series.

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[–] DuckOverload@lemmy.world 46 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (10 children)

Last year's DnD movie is the best film of the last ten or so years. It succeeded on every level, except in the box office.

My hypothesis is that Hasbro insisted on branding it "Dungeons & Dragons" to push the brand, and non-gamers figured it wasn't for them. If they'd have made the main title "Honor among Thieves", all the game nerds would have seen the DnD logo, and others wouldn't have been turned off *. As it stands, people will find it and it'll become the new "Starship Troopers" that bombed but shines forever in retrospect.

* See "Arcane".

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[–] idunnololz@lemmy.world 45 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (8 children)

This post is so confusing. Do I upvote opinions I strongly agree with or down vote them?!

[–] Rejacked@lemmy.world 29 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Upvote things that contribute to the post, downvote things that don't. Has nothing to do with like/dislike, or agree/disagree.

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[–] DLSantini@lemmy.ml 43 points 11 months ago (6 children)

The original Star wars trilogy was overrated, the sequels were underrated, and I'd rather them all to be equally mediocre.

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[–] Extrasvhx9he@lemmy.today 41 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Every animated movie looks the same now

[–] Nastybutler@lemmy.world 27 points 11 months ago (6 children)

You're wrong, and here's just one example to prove it: Into the Spiderverse

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[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 19 points 11 months ago (3 children)

What do you mean? There are so many styles of animation, you mean like Pixar movies all look the same?

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[–] FireTower@lemmy.world 39 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

The original Blade Runner movie is not nearly as good as the sequel. The sequel highlights how bad the original's plot was. We overly praise the first one because of the Tear in the Rain Speech.

[–] jmdatcs@lemmy.tf 19 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I wanted to downvote your stupid ass but op asked for unpopular opinions. So fuck you here's an upvote.

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[–] Pratai@lemmy.ca 39 points 11 months ago (12 children)

Mine is- the Marvel/DC superhero movies all but entirely ruined cinema.

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[–] fireweed@lemmy.world 38 points 11 months ago (16 children)

The Mario movie was incredibly mediocre, despite its high production value. I'm talking MCU-levels of truckloads of money spent with shockingly little to show for it.

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[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 37 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

I enjoyed Sucker Punch. I'll admit it's very male gazey, but it's still a fun movie and has a killer soundtrack (am a woman)

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[–] theKalash@feddit.ch 35 points 11 months ago (10 children)

That "The Man from Earth (2007)" is the best movies there is. I recommend it to people all the time but no one seems to realise how profoundly interesting it is. And it doesn't need any scenery or special effects. It's literally just conversation and dramatic music, tuned to perfectly tell a story that touches on many philosophical questions. I just love that film.

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[–] tryptaminev@feddit.de 28 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Interstellar is a bad movie. The story takes too long, the supposedly smart characters are acting obviously dumb, and the whole "we solved it all along because we figured out timetravel" trope is the most lazy way to wrap up a story.

Oh and of course the small artifically built space colony near Jupiter does not care for fitting many humans, but instead is a shitty american suburb with lavish lawns. Because who needs to safe people from other cultures amirite?

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[–] eagleeyedtiger@lemmy.nz 28 points 11 months ago (4 children)

I actually liked Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets. Both main actors were objectively terrible, but I still liked the movie 🤷‍♂️

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[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 27 points 11 months ago (8 children)

Titanic is not a good movie.

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[–] bestusername@aussie.zone 27 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (6 children)

Can I do a TV show?... I'm gonna do a TV show.

The Mandalorian is boring!

They should have called it "Shiny Boba Fett and Baby Yoda travel planet to planet doing stuff".

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[–] EuroNutellaMan@lemmy.world 26 points 11 months ago

it's actually spelled film

[–] bogdugg@sh.itjust.works 25 points 11 months ago (10 children)

Gonna try to phrase this an inflammatory way:

People who like bad movies have been conditioned by consumerism to not appreciate art. They believe spectacle, humour, and a tight plot are 'good enough', and they don't value thoughtfulness, novelty, beauty, or abrasiveness nearly enough. Film is more than a way to fill time and have fun. Film is more than an explosion, a laugh, and a happy ending.

On an unrelated note: Mad Max: Fury Road is one of my favourite movies.

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[–] MrZigZag@kbin.social 24 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Christopher Nolan hasn't made a truly good movie since The Prestige. Everything since then has been too long, too convoluted, and/or too loud (or in the case of Oppenheimer, not loud enough).

[–] nul@programming.dev 19 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

Very hot take considering

The Prestige - 2006

The Dark Knight - 2008

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[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 23 points 11 months ago (10 children)

Saving Private Ryan is a pro-war movie.

[–] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 41 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Pretty much every American war film is a pro-war movie.

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[–] mumblerfish@lemmy.world 23 points 11 months ago (5 children)

The Godfather, extremely overrated and very boring. Saw it many years ago, and maybe my taste in movies have changed a bit, and I consider rewatching other movies I did not like, but not that one.

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[–] Rylyshar@lemmy.world 23 points 11 months ago (6 children)

I watched The Princess Bride and couldn’t understand why it gets so much love. I found it really gruesome and unfunny, and Robin Wright’s princess was bland and unlikable.

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[–] fsxylo@sh.itjust.works 22 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

Blade runner 2049 was a boring slideshow of backdrops with the "bwaaa" music overlaying it and occasionally plot happened. What plot is that? I don't fucking remember.

[–] FuglyTheBear@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago

Ill upvote you, because its an appropriatly unpopular opinion, but ill have you know I'm truly offended.

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[–] AnalogyAddict@lemmy.world 22 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Napoleon Dynamite is garbage.

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[–] tal@lemmy.today 20 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

Mine is that I can’t stand the Deadpool movies. They are self aware and self referential to an obnoxious degree.

I haven't read the comic books that they're based on for a long time, but as I recall, they also break the fourth wall. I don't think that that was introduced specifically for the movie.

googles

Apparently that wasn't always there:

https://screenrant.com/deadpool-fourth-wall-break-first-time-ever/

When Did Deadpool First Break The Fourth Wall?

Marvel's Deadpool is known for his over-the-top violence and crude and crass humor, but perhaps his best-known character trait is his penchant for repeatedly breaking the fourth wall. Deadpool talks to the audience in comics, films and videogames - but he didn't always have this power. In fact, early Deadpool was known for being quite serious and firmly rooted in the fictional realm...so when did the Merc with a Mouth first break the fourth wall - and how did he insult editors everywhere by doing so?

Deadpool and the assassin with superhuman accuracy Bullseye teamed up in previous issues, and in Deadpool #28, the two are reunited after a long absence. "How long has it been!?" Bullseye exclaims. Deadpool simply states "Issue sixteen." It's the smallest of fourth-wall breaks (he hadn't even began speaking to the readers yet), but it shows that Deadpool is doing more than acting out - he's acting as his own editor. Considering convoluted comics continuity, it's normal for editors to occasionally place footnotes in certain panels, specifically when characters reference past events. Perhaps Kelly and Woods considered the old method, but wanted to try a new technique. Whatever their reasoning, Deadpool's fourth wall breaks became a staple of the character.

Looks like Deadpool #28 dates to 1997, though, so Deadpool breaking the fourth wall has been around for over a quarter of a century.

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[–] PRUSSIA_x86@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago (2 children)

The Breakfast Club is overrated

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[–] hyperactive@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Off topic but TIL there's no sort by controversial option on Lemmy. :(

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[–] IHadTwoCows@lemm.ee 20 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Deadpool was a comic first and yes, that was the point. Deadpool is the only Marvel character who knows that he is a Marvel character. He was around vefore Taiko Watiti decided to self-insert in every movie as a failed comedian.

Tl;dr: it wasn't Deadpool's fault.

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