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On a recent post, there were a lot of comments, which said that they were missing the headphones on newer mobile devices.

How many actually use the headphone jack?

I ask, because I have one on my phone, since I really wanted one, but I rarely use it. Like Tops 1/Month.

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[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 179 points 11 months ago (3 children)

People like having choice, it was never about saving space in phones. I like my wired bose headphones that I've had for 15 years and will likely last at least 15 more. Those wireless ones are the definition of planned obsolescence.

[–] Tanoh@lemmy.world 22 points 11 months ago

Also bluetooth fucking sucks for lack of a better phrase.

9/10 times it connects fine, but then every now and then it just refuses. "What? No I don't exist" and then you have to either restart bluetooth and/or the device, and then it magically works again.

Also, I quite often get stuttering with it. Not sure if it is my phone or headphones or both at fault, but I would like having an audio jack when I am sitting at the desk

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[–] Shayeta@feddit.de 102 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You do realise that making a post like this makes wired users more likely to reply? I use wired daily, wireless too big and stuffy.

[–] moonleay@feddit.de 16 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

Good argument. But isn't that always the case when asking if ppl are / aren't into a topic? A persion, who is invested in the topic is way more likely to reply. I agree with you, but I don't know how I could've avoided said issue.

[–] Khanzarate@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago

You can't really avoid it in any easy way. If you could, the field of statistics would get a decent amount simpler. The only way to deal with the bias is with a survey pulled from random people, which you can't really do easily here.

But this one will have a lot of bias, all the same.

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[–] highduc@lemmy.ml 72 points 11 months ago (13 children)

I think people who dislike the headphone jack must be young and not have (good) wired headphones.
Older people (older than teenagers and young adults I mean) often have a few pairs of good headphones they got over the years, and it's a massive waste to just throw them away and buy wireless because that's what the trends demand. And in most cases wireless won't sound as good, because the budget needs to go to bluetooth chips, and dacs, and batteries and all that crap, instead of just focusing on audio.

According to Wikipedia, 'The original 1⁄4 inch (6.35 mm) version descends from as early as 1877', and it's been an industry standard since then.
You can use it not just for headphones but as a line out, to connect all kinds of audio devices between them. You can hook up your phone to a car audio system, an old radio (if it has input, I think most do), a guitar pedal or an amplifier, a reverb or an effects unit, etc., just with the "magic" of wires.

[–] flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz 29 points 11 months ago (4 children)

There are honestly no good wireless headphones out there. Yes, in the price range ~300€ you can get some decent earbuds. But still not even close in sound quality to what you can buy for 100€ with a wire.

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[–] Mango@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago

Copper doesn't discriminate against electrons. Bluetooth however is picky.

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[–] Engywuck@lemm.ee 63 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (22 children)

Me. I own both wired and wireless earphones and I want to be able to use both.

[–] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 10 points 11 months ago

I recently switched to wireless over-the-ear headphones and overall happy. However, when it comes to earbuds - they would only be wired. Unlike my large headphones, which can be unscrewed for that, most earbuds would have trouble wen replacing the battery. And - maybe more importantly - easier to lose since they're separate and so small.

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[–] LainOfTheWired@lemy.lol 31 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

For me it's always been a dumb argument. There is no good argument for not having one

  • It costs maybe £2 to add a crappy DAC, amp, and headphone jack to a phone that is already ridiculously expensive.

  • The waterproof argument was destroyed by the S5, S6, S7, S8, and S9.

  • The iPhone 7 literally had the space inside for one!

It's also weird to me that a lot of budget phones have them. Like why would a £200 phone have a feature a £1,000+ phone doesn't?

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[–] Cralder@feddit.nu 24 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I see a lot of people saying the use it every day, probably since this type of post attracts those types of people. So I will break the mold and say that I never use it.

I haven't had a headphone jack in my last 2 phones and I haven't missed it at all. Maybe once or twice in the last few years when I have gotten into my mom's car which doesn't have Bluetooth. All my headphones are Bluetooth. All my speakers are Bluetooth. If I really need a headphone jack I can still use a dongle but that almost never happens.

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[–] RavenFellBlade@startrek.website 24 points 11 months ago (4 children)

I bought a USB-to-aux adapter because my current phone does not have a headphone jack and my vehicle doesn't have Bluetooth. I use it literally every day, sometimes for hours. It's utter nonsense that they are getting rid of them.

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[–] amio@kbin.social 24 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I do. I recently bought a new phone and this was non-negotiable. My headphones are good and my desire to bring Bluetooth and batteries into the equation is a cool zero at most.

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[–] SomeBloke@lemm.ee 24 points 11 months ago

Use it every day. Yeah wireless earphones are great, but they're far from perfect; some pairs have delays and issues with audio quality, turning on bluetooth drains my phone battery quicker, and I have enough devices which I need to maintain and recharge all the time - I can't be doing with another one.

The only hassle you get with wired earphones is them tangling up and limiting how far you can move your head, but I'd take those over connection issues any day.

[–] Iceblade02@lemmy.world 23 points 11 months ago

Almost every day. For a while I had a pair of decent wireless headphones, but they broke and I haven't had money to spare for new ones.

[–] sir_reginald@lemmy.world 23 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I only use wired headphones.The annoyance of batteries, the higher prices and the much shorter lifespan makes wireless a no go for me.

You can buy some nice wired headphones and expect them to last 15+ years if taken good care of. Good luck trying to keep wireless ones for more than 5 years with a good battery life.

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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 21 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Literally every day. Stop making phones without them, god damn it.

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[–] BananaTrifleViolin@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I use wired headphones every day. I always used my headphone jack.

My latest phone doesn't have one, so I have to use a dongle to convert USB C to jack. I've looked at USB wired headphones but they just integrate the dongle and the choices are limited.

I much prefer wired in-ear headphones when I'm out of the house, versus larger over ear Bluetooth headphones at home.

Wired headphones are super convenient as they don't need charging, are cheap and easily replaced, give good quality audio because the technology is simple and analogue (converting now loses that benefit), and are convenient as I can pop them in and out, hang them round my ears and don't worry too much about losing them as they're on wires.

It pisses me off 3.5mm audio jacks are disappearing - just to save phone manufacturers money or to make devices pointlessly thinner. Phones need a minimum heft and thickness to be comfortable to hold; I feel like they're chasing pointless design goals now at the cost of what the customer actually wants/needs.

And wireless audio can be annoying when you have interference with Bluetooth, or the device runs out of battery, or are just more expensive so you worry about losing or breaking them.

It's enshitification in the phone space.

[–] ShroOmeric@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago

Everyday. No jack, no buy.

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 20 points 11 months ago

I do. Specifically got an older samsung that still had it.

I dont like using bluetooth headphones in the office. Random disconnects for whatever reason is not something I need happening since tunes like 'Marvin Sease - Candylicker' is not office appropriate.

[–] FelixMortane@lemmy.ca 20 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Use to, until my new phone no longer had one. I miss my corded headphones.

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[–] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 19 points 11 months ago

I still prefer and regularly use wired headphones. More specifically, 100% of the time on my phone, and about 25% of the time on my tablet. I probably listen to audio on my phone a couple of hours a week. So not a ton, but equally also a fair amount.

[–] gwheel@lemm.ee 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I like being to leave a pair of headphones in my bag without having to worry about charging or pairing when I switch devices.

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[–] jenny_ball@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago (2 children)

increase the depth of the back of the phone so there is no camera bump. then use the additional volume for more battery and a headphone jack. geez

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[–] CritFail@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I have only ever bought phones with a 3.5mm jack. I have expensive Sony headphones I use for music and would hate having that option taken away from me. That's why Fairphone is still a miss for me right now.

All of my Bluetooth experiences from headphones to Alexa devices have been more of a nuisance than a convenience, often not pairing, randomly unpairing or forgetting connectivity, finding it difficult to unpair to pair another device, not finding devices literally centimetres away, draining phone battery faster, short bluetooth device lifespan, recharging requirements, sound quality, and price points all going against them. I have seen people unironically suggest adding a wire to the Bluetooth headphones so you could charge them from your phone while listening to music. Bluetooth isn't good enough to supercede wires.

Usb C converter is not the same as plain wired connectivity, its more fragile than 3.5mm, it cannot be rotated or twisted, it is bulkier, prevents charging at the same time, and adds yet another small expensive wire to forget, lose, or break. It solves a problem no-one asked for. Anyone who doesn't want a smashed screen has a chunky case so phone thinness doesn't matter.

I just want all of my tech to work with each other universally. We used to have the choice of both and I think returning to this standard will make everyone happy.

[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 15 points 11 months ago

I do every time I use earphones. For me, it is a must.

[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago (4 children)

What headphones jack! There's no headphone jacks anymore! They got rid of it because apple wanted to sell air pods!

God damnit!

No replaceable batteries, he SD card slots no headphone jack! Nothing!

(I am aware that there are still phones out there with headphones jacks but they're either really low end or from a smaller manufacturer like Asus that don't really sell at T-Mobile which is my service provider)

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[–] RBWells@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago

I used mine all the time and do miss it. Now I mostly use wired headphones plugged into the laptop, and use Bluetooth or casting to speakers from phone. If you don't use yours you won't miss it.

[–] NaoPb@eviltoast.org 14 points 11 months ago

I use it all the time. I have lots of equipent that doesn't use bluetooth that I connect my phone with.

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago (2 children)

The point of the headphone jack is that it IS THERE when you need it.

How many of you use your fire extinguisher regularly?

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[–] NicoCharrua@lemmy.ca 14 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I always used it when I had one.

Now, I use an adapter for headphone jack to USB-C. Every day.

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[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 12 points 11 months ago (7 children)

Bluetooth is shite.

It can be convenient but also it constantly cuts out, disconnects, or the batteries die.

I'm not a big fan of headphones in general but when traveling I absolutely prefer wired.

When listening to podcasts while I work at home, I prefer Bluetooth because I can use only 1 ear without the other one flopping around.

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[–] DillyDaily@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago (2 children)

All the time, always and forever.

I will buy adaptors, and seek out wired headphones with a jack that fits my phone.

Friends and families have bought me wireless headphones, but I am a walking Bluetooth black zone (I'm constantly having to reset Bluetooth connections on my all my devices, no one else in my household has the same problem), and I'm notorious for loosing things.

I superglued my wireless ear buds to a chunky necklace so even if one fell out it wouldn't get lost, it would just dangle around my neck. Lost the whole thing somewhere between the garage and the front door one night. Got my housemates out crawling in the grass looking for it with torches and playing the "lost ear bud" tone from the app, but we never found it. Not even when mowing the lawn did we ever hear it getting chewed up.

I'm not an audiophile, I have reverse slope hearing loss and I'm currently using a $10 pair of 3.5mm earphones with a $7 usbc adaptor and its exactly what I need because it's cheap, replaceable, and I wouldn't even notice better audio quality if it stuck it's tongue in my ear.

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[–] Resol@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

It's actually the most useful port in my phone. Some of their best headphones out there are wired (those that don't target professionals at least), so it's nice that I just plug them in and expect them to work willy nilly. I can even use an external amplifier with it if need be.

Bluetooth is still the worst thing I've dealt with in my life.

[–] GeneralVincent@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I also use it daily. I bought a cheap aux to bt adapter for my car so I could wirelessly play music but it's not as good as just plugging it in directly. And it's an extra dongle thing to worry about.

I really just wanted to do Bluetooth because it's slightly more convenient, and when I'm charging my phone while it's plugged into aux there's a bit of a whine over my music. But having the option to do aux when I want is important to me personally

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[–] pineapplepizza@lemm.ee 11 points 11 months ago

I use wired daily. I also use wireless a few times a week.

[–] ZeroTHM@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

All the time, even when Bluetooth is available instead. It's simply more reliable.

[–] nicetomeetyouIMVEGAN@lemmings.world 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's the only way I can listen to music in my car. I could upgrade, but I don't need to because I have the jack.

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[–] Maldreamer@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

Almost everyday, the day my current phone diee and when i get a new one i would need a dongle for my iem

[–] MysticKetchup@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

All the time, it's great for riding the train or focusing at work. I have a pair of Bluetooth headphones but they're slower and harder to connect so I prefer wired over them. Also since wired are cheaper and don't require batteries I can keep a spare pair in my car or at my desk so I never have to worry about forgetting and not having them

[–] OozingPositron@feddit.cl 10 points 11 months ago

I use it every day, plus a 512 GB SD card to store ROMs, striping functionalities is ridiculous.

[–] sloppy_diffuser@sh.itjust.works 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Daily with a USB-C DAC (prefer no DAC). I've had Bluetooth headphones ranging from $30 to $300. Keeping them charged is just a pain in the ass and the battery inevitability wears out due to too many cycles.

All my peers stalling our remote meetings for 5+ minutes when their air pods die or have pairing issues also annoys the fuck out of me as it happens every damn week. We do a lot of pair programming sitting in discord all day.

Until the tech improves, I'll stick with wired.

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[–] Chadteeka@lemm.ee 10 points 11 months ago

Yeah still have one on my phone, still use it daily. I won't buy a phone without one. Still rocking the apple wired headphones 10 years later. Still have a headphone jack in my car.

[–] Enkrod@feddit.de 10 points 11 months ago

Every. Single. Day.

My cars bluetooth is broken, so I connect my phone via headphone jack. This way I can still use my cars speakers and mic to receive phone calls and listen to music or audiobooks on my one hour drive to work.

I also despise bluetooth headphones. My phones batteries last longer since I don't use bluetooth anymore and I can't be bothered to not lose them and always have them charged when I want to use them.

With my good wired Bose headphones I pay a third of what the wireless crap would cost, have better sound and they are always ready, easily to take care of and at worst slightly tangled from being crammed into a jeans pocket.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

I used it right up until I didn't have a port in the phone for it anymore. Wired is 100% more reliable for headphones. I'm not even an audiophile, I just hate how Bluetooth drops and comes back wherever it wants. If we're going to do wireless then we need a better protocol.

[–] kalleboo@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I like using wired headphones when I take phone calls. The headset profile that Bluetooth switches to when it needs to activate a microphone sounds like total ass and I have trouble understanding what people say as it is.

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[–] m0darn@lemmy.ca 10 points 11 months ago (5 children)

The most recent phone I purchased does not a 3.5mm jack. It wasn't really a decision I realized I was making, as the phone's previous iteration had had it in an era when that wasn't a given.

There have been a few times that I've missed it, not many, certainly fewer than 10 never a huge deal. But that's infinitely more times than I've thought:

I'm so glad my phone doesn't have a headphone jack.

Next phone will definitely have one because honestly

yeah I might use that

Is enough justification to spend $0.25 (if that) for them to integrate a jack. What stupid cost cutting.

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