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Drivers Tend To Kill Pedestrians At Night. Thermal Imaging May Help.::Pedestrian automatic emergency braking (AEB), which may become mandatory on U.S. cars in the future, tends to not perform well in the dark.

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[–] TurboHarbinger@feddit.cl 56 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Drivers Tend To Kill Pedestrians At Night. Thermal Imaging May Help.

Yes, I need more incentives to kill pedestrians.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

LOL yes. Even the first sentence in this headline reads funny on its own.

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[–] Phegan@lemmy.world 50 points 1 year ago (15 children)

What if we reduced the size of cars, reduced speed limits and created cities and towns that are safer to walk in

[–] ThrowawayPermanente@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] isles@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Yep! America: Of the Cars, By the Cars, For the Cars

[–] Ookami38@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

I mean, long term that's a fantastic solution. Pretty sure this change can be implemented a lot sooner and a LOT cheaper, and save lives tho.

[–] Landsharkgun@midwest.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Limit the speed of private vehicles mechanically, the same way they do with ebikes.

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[–] Kissaki@feddit.de 34 points 1 year ago (4 children)

In IIHS’ latest tests of car headlight systems, fewer than half (43%) earned a good rating. [...] “Vehicles that earn a good rating for visibility in our tests have 23% fewer nighttime pedestrian crashes than those that rate poor.”

That's a lot of room for improvement without new technology.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's the kind of thing you assume would have been empirically tested and have minimum safety regulations, instead of the wild variability we see from dimly lit up close to blinding pulsar from alpha centauri.

[–] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

There is a minimum and regulations, in the US IIRC the legal range is between 500 and 3000 lumens. And it results in exactly what you describe.

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

Exactly.

We need to have regs targeting specific performance metrics based on testing.

[–] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Europe actually has incredible adaptive headlight technology that AFAIK was illegal in the US up until very recently. It'll be great to see this rolled out here as it's better for everyone.

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[–] ichbinjasokreativ@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (7 children)

People could also wear something other than black clothes when they go outside at night.

[–] Ookami38@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Dude. For real. The number of jump scares I've had on a dark fuckin back road, and some bastard in all black seemingly materializes in front of me... Same thing with people who drove at dusk without lights on, MAKE YOURSELF VISIBLE

[–] Latuga17@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (7 children)

It is your responsibility as the operator of a car to see pedestrians even if they are wearing black

[–] emptiestplace@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Sure is, but sometimes our brains don't work perfectly.

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[–] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago (5 children)

hmm thermal imaging in cars.... or just more public transit and street lighting..... give me the expensive capitalist hellcreating thing

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[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This has been a thing for decades now at least in Mercedes (S & E) and BMW (5+).

And it's not just the camera alone, car headlights have a special projector that selectively illuminates pedestrians (or just does a double flash at them). Works as intended, but few people opt for it ... and gov are still not mandating it (like automatic breaking).

[–] HeneryHawk@thelemmy.club 9 points 1 year ago (11 children)

My parents gotba relatively new Merc and I'd to turn that auto braking off. Its far too sensitive and nearly had me rear ended driving around a bend. My guess is its picking up the retroreflective spots on the markings as there usually isn't a car on that bend but the Merc is beeping at me like I'm about to be in a collision

[–] zoe@jlai.lu 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Only 344 days left till Halloween!!

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[–] paultimate14@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (4 children)

ITT: "What was the victim wearing at the time? Was the car acting in self-defense? Do cars have qualified immunity? Did the pedestrian pose a threat or instigate the car? Were they wearing their officially state-sanctioned Pedestrian uniform and helmet? Did the pedestrian have any pre-existing conditions?"

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[–] BustlingChungus@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Oh good, anything to help me kill more at night!

[–] cogman@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

As a pedestrian, this is why wearing high viz/lighted clothing at night is so important.

[–] SitD@feddit.de 8 points 1 year ago

this is gonna be super bad for lizard people 😱

[–] r00ty@kbin.life 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

People often don't help themselves either. I remember this time, I was driving on a country road in the fog. Suddenly I saw my foglights light up a dog walking in the road. So I drove around, then as I got closer I saw a man walking this dog, dressed all in black, on an unlit country road, walking away from traffic, in dense fog.

If he made it back home alive, it's purely down to luck (or his dog being seen before him again).

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[–] pedz@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Anything but slowing down when it's difficult to see ahead. We'll just victim blame dead pedestrians, deer and raccoons for wearing dark colors at night.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Like the case with the paintball guy a few years ago. Someone was driving on a road in the woods at night when he suddenly hit a guy - dressed in dark camo, face blackened, etc, anything not to be seen - who came running out of the woods onto the road. He was a paintballer being persued by members of the opposite team. The car took him out of the game, though.

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