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[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

This sounds promising. But given how much money there should be in this, their timidity is puzzling. Perhaps the solution is brittle or subject to legal or technical challenges. Just read between the lines on this. They’ve got the cure for cancer but there keeping it in animal testing for now…

The app is currently in beta and we’ve decided to keep availability more focused to ensure the best user experience at this time. Although we’re excited to be the first mobile company to introduce a blue bubble solution and we’d like to make it as widely available to Android enthusiasts as we can, we’re prioritizing delivering an optimal user experience before committing to expansion at this time.

[–] smileyhead@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Can't you just change the color in the settings?

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No, otherwise Apple wouldn't be able to perpetuate it.

It should be easy. Your product is knowingly and intentionally creating problems for the youth in this country. You are hearby banned from all sales and usage in this country. If you would like to change your product and re-apply to do business here, feel free.

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[–] lolola@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago (11 children)

when did SMS go out of style?

[–] smileyhead@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago

More than decade ago when phones started to be capable to use Internet-based messaging standards, those that exists for computers for 30+ years.

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

I've been waiting for average users to catch up since about 2010 when I was running Pidgin (XMPP) on my Android, since SMS is terribly unreliable.

SMS is a best-effort protocol, with zero error checking, meaning no error correction, no ensured delivery. It's known to lose up to ten percent of messages.

It's also tightly bound to cellular architecture, since it encapsulates messages into the mostly-empty management frames of the cell network.

It was bleeding edge in 1986 (IIRC), but it's long past it's retirement time.

[–] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 1 points 1 year ago

Because SMS are paid. I only use them because I am on a dumbphone and the plan is like $3 anyway.

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[–] orclev@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I predict one of two outcomes once Apple becomes aware of this. Either they'll modify the iMessage protocol to break Nothing Phones compatibility, or they'll sue Nothing Phone for violating some kind of IP law. Apple absolutely wants to maintain their walled garden and letting a non-Apple product transparently interact on equal footing with Apple products runs counter to that.

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The messaging is provided by a third party who is dedicated to working on their iMessage compatibility. Apple has no reason to stop this because this is a good move for them in the larger battle between mobile messaging standards.

Google owns Jibe, the company behind RCS messaging found on all Android phones and an emerging, competent product from the only game in town that can compete with Apple. Google has decided to take this to the government level and push for a unified phone messaging standard, normally a good thing, but proposed their own RCS solution. The one they own and whose servers Google scrapes for user info.

Apple is pushing iMessage as a protest against Google and their inevitable lawsuit to conform with RCS adoption. Android may win unless Apple shows it has parity and provides a non-legislative option: if enough people use iMessage then governments don't have to make any laws or enforce changes. The company Nothing is using iMessage, which helps Apple prove there is both a significant user base, which would cause a burden on Apple and it's customers to change, and there is no monopoly on iMessage or messaging in general. So if enough people use iMessage, Apple sees it as a good thing.

[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

RCS is not a Google product, see https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/GSMA

Apple has been pushing iMessage for quite some time, but they want to keep it just to their platform and have made no attempt to make it open to other users. That's Apples way and it's not as a "protest" to Google lol

That's like saying they made the lightning port as a protest to USB standards, nah they just want their proprietary shit.

[–] kirklennon@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That’s like saying they made the lightning port as a protest to USB standards, nah they just want their proprietary shit.

They wanted a new, compact, durable, reversible plug for their mobile devices. There was no industry-standard option that met their requirements, so they made their own. If USB-C had existed at the time, they would have used it (though as a physical connector, Lightning is still just plain better).

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