I wouldn't call it "thinking". Conservatives react more than anything. They react to progress (--> hate), change (--> hate) and things they're not familiar with (--> hate). They don't pro-actively think per se.
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There used to be a difference between conservative and reactionary
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They were wrong, of course, but it wasn't that long ago that economic conservatives were a thing - the majority, even. Now the culture war brain rot they had to deploy to deflect from how ineffective things like trickle-down economics are have consumed them completely.
How far back do I have to go to find non bigoted Conservatives? Iike to watch old cspan debates as far back as the 90s with Gingrich it was already hate, fear and culture war. I'm trying to find these mythical Conservatives that want to balance the budget without discriminating or putting some minority group down...
Tl:dr: the non-bigoted conservatives died when the last of the non-culture-war messaging did.
Depends on how you slice it.
From a consequential standpoint, conservatives are and basically alway have been bigoted.
If you're looking at people who know their vote has bigoted outcomes, but don't care and are motivated by other things, that's probably the majority historically.
If you're asking if people are being intentionally bigoted, when the conservative messaging is now exclusively culture war nonsense, they're the overwhelming majority today.
I'd say that a reasonable portion, potentially the majority of your McCain and Romney voters were well intentioned - wrong, but we'll intentioned.
There's also a bloc of voters that will vote conservative because they always have - no thought whatsoever - the dems are worse. Why? Shrug
I think it's now impossible to be a good person and vote conservative - you'd need to somehow ignore everything they say and do to vote blindly, which is bad in and if itself.
The entire definition of "conservative" is built around "conserving" something that would otherwise be threatened by progress. Their entire thing is reacting to social progress and trying to prevent it.
Yes, self deception
Yeah that was it! Where'd that go?
I knew a hardcore Maga conservative once, this is very accurate to how they behaved, they really hate everyone, they just pretend to care about certain people so they can put down others.
And that includes children.
I've heard that a lot of them tend to me very harmful to children, and not just the old fashioned conservative authoritarian families or mistreatment of trans kids, like a lot of them exploit children into being intimate with them 🤮. The irony is they try to say that queer and trans people are groomers but the real groomers are them. They are hardcore projecting.
See also: them now suddenly all caring about "the Jews" as long as it helps them put down Muslims, or the other way 'round.
My mom fell hard into Qanon in 2019, and it was crazy how she just flat-out stopped having any opinions of her own. We were never close, but we were at least able to have the occasional conversation before that, but now any attempt to talk to her immediately turns into her reciting something she saw on youtube. I can't remember the last time she said anything to anyone that didn't start with "So my videos said..."
Conservatives: get a job you homeless, like all the hard working people. Workers: so you care about workers rights and a fair living wage? Conservatives: get out of here with your socialism..... And the list continues
You can go further.
So you care about your kids? Spare the rod spool the child
So you care about yourself? Health food/healthy living is gay
And MAGA didn't do it to them they've always been like this. Trump just talks exactly like they do on Facebook. Verbatim. Theyre worshipping themselves when they worship Trump.
That last sentence is illuminating. I hadn't thought about it that way before.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts.
So you care about Trump? HE'S THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN SAVE THIS COUNTRY!
So you care about the country?
Of course I care about the country,so long as I can strip anyone of their rights, keep as many people as possible away from healthcare, and make sure as many people as possible are working grueling hours for as little pay as possible.
spool the child? turbocharge the children??
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I wish that was only the MAGA cultists.
MAGoos will spend hours lauding veterans, then spend twice as much time lauding the guy who says he 'likes soldiers who don't get captured.'
And also vote for those who want to purge their VA benefits.
That's one more thing to hate about the GOP. Almost any list of lies and backstabbing of their own base is going to feel underdone.
It's almost as if it's not about the actual problems
Make America Gay Again
Gaslight. Obstruct. Project. Ladies and gentlemen and everyone in between, this is what GOP truly means.
and ppl who aren't on the binary spectrum?🥺🥺
(i feel the need to point out that non-binary does not necessairily mean "in between". i appreciate that u tried tho <3)
I didn't know that would be offensive. I really didn't. I thought my comment was inclusive to everyone. Can anyone tell me how to be more tactful with my words in the future?
I have very good friends who identify as their true selves in so many ways and I love them all dearly. It would crush me if I don't learn something from this. To me, a is part of the category I was attempting to include.
To me, a is part of the category I was attempting to include
I could be wrong (and I hope @riwo@lemmy.blahaj.zone will correct me if I am), but I don't think "a" is a category. I think they were simulating a stutter. The "a- and ppl" is (I think) meant to be pausing and restarting the word "and" halfway through.
I thought it was short for asexual :-/ still learning new things
As an Asexual, can confirm, they're just making a joke with a text based stutter, not referring to Asexual or Agender, such as in "LGBTQIA+" that generally refers to multiple things under the "A".
In the latter case, it's left open ended for inclusivity, rather than arbitrarily excluding other things by specifying.
As for how the original comment could possibly be more inclusive, it's harder to say exactly, but I can think of something like "Ladies, Gentlemen, and everyone else", but I'm not exactly great at fancy words... or words in general... but I try my best.
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I see what you mean, though I would probably make the same mistake myself without thinking it through.
What would be a better way to address "everyone"?
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You are safer in a toilet with a trans person than a conservative politician
They outsource their conscience with predicable results.
The con sun on Reddit seems to agree with muslims a lot, they are even aware of “the good” the terrorists do.
They just don’t want to see or interact with them
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Hate hate hate hate hate
Could have just left it blank.
That's actually a dangerous thing to do. They aren't stupid, they just invested their intelligence into manipulating social systems, including the debate method humans use to resolve disputes, to secure dominance over other people.
Remember those bullies who brutalized you when you all were little? That was just the fascist cultists letting their kids use you for target practice. They've been doing it since they were little kids and were not only supported by their parents, but were taught how.
It's dangerous to write them off as simple country bumpkins.
Hit back. You're allowed to finish fights, just don't start them.
Haters gon hate
Seems accurate.
The difference is something I call "selective collectivism". The pulse shooting means that Muslims are a problem. One trans shooter means that we need an answer to "the trans question". But when white conservatives commit more domestic terrorism than all other groups combined and even gather under a banner that says "we are all domestic terrorists", neither white people nor conservatives will ever be expected to answer for a "domestic terrorism problem". Men make up the vast majority of violent criminals, but to suggest that masculinity needs to examine itself and find a better way forward prompts immediate massive backlash. Is the latest outrage indicative of an entire class of people with deep-seated, fundamental problems or is it yet another lone wolf and absolutely not a reflection on the culture that created it? Depends. Do I personally like the villain?
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