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[–] sawne128@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

Road salt mentioned, day ruined.

[–] shasta@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

EVs also help with the brake disc "dust" since a lot of the braking is "regenerative breaking" done by the electric motor and does not use the brake pads at all. They require less maintenance, and have fewer parts in them, so less manufacturing materials. With very few exceptions, they are also smaller vehicles with more safety features which should result in fewer pedestrian casualties.

Obviously having no vehicles at all would be even better at solving these issues, but that's not practical for our current reality. Maybe in 100 years.

I will say that "autopilot" features should absolutely be outlawed and cause nothing but trouble to everyone.

[–] saigot@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I will say that "autopilot" features should absolutely be outlawed and cause nothing but trouble to everyone

Autopilot is a pretty broad category. I like the autopilot on my car, which is nothing like elon musks self driving bullshit. It only turns on on supported highways and uses lidar instead of machine vision. All it does is maintain a following distance and follow the curve of the road. On Long drives it stops your foot and arms being fatigued and frees up a lot more mental space to look out for road hazards, it has a camera in the wheel that makes sure you have your eyes pointed at the road. I don't see any risks for this sort of simple autopilot but it does have a lot of upside.

I'd definitely rather ride the train if it didn't cost 200 dollars and come once a day, but until it gets better(and I've been writing a lot of letters to my officials) my self driving ev is the best alternative.

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[–] milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago (12 children)

Now do bicycles, horses, and dense human populations ;-)

bikes don't cause as much tire dust because they are less heavy

[–] corship@feddit.de 7 points 1 year ago

Horses - shit everywhere you look

[–] kfc@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

oh yeah? you think a better world would be better? heh

[–] angstylittlecatboy@reddthat.com 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm certain dense human populations are better for the environment than non-dense human populations, because dense human populations need to be moved around less.

You're basically advocating for human extinction in this comment.

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[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Wait, how much environmental damage does road salt cause?

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[–] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Classic fuck_cars - never change you guys.

[–] Mio@feddit.nu 6 points 1 year ago

Yes, pollution is a big problem. Not sure why so many people ignore it.

I keep it simple and use the communal traffic(bus/train) instead. I have never bought a car and don't miss it as i live near the things I need grocery store and workplace(bike 5km).

[–] TheLastHero@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

also, if the West did adopt EVs en mass (hard to even imagine), all those ICE vehicles aren't just disappearing. They're getting exported to the rest of the world as cheap used cars. Nothing has been "replaced", you've just made more cars and more pollution.

[–] CurtAdams@urbanists.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@TheLastHero @Masimatutu Nah, there's not much intercontinental transport of used cars. Too expensive and complicated. If the West adopted EVs en mass there would be a lot less gasoline consumption there, and little increase elsewhere.

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[–] showmustgo@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Almost 80% of ocean micro plastics is just tires

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