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[–] random65837@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I think it's amusing that Hillary thinks anybody gives half shit what she thinks at this point.

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[–] SineNomineAnonymous@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

If i was actively supporting a genocide from an ideologically similar regime to the Nazis, I'd tone it down with the Hitler comparisons.

[–] PumpkinSkink@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But he... wasn't. He lost the presidency in 1932 to Paul Von Hindenburg (53% to 37%. not even particularly close) who later appointed Hitler under pressure to the channclorship (which was an appointed role) in 1933. Hindenburg died in January of 1934 and Hitler de facto merged the presidency and chancelorship into one office (Fuhrer). The story isn't "regular people put Hitler in power", it's "broken legislative systems are vulnerable to facists".

[–] Melkath@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

it’s “broken legislative systems are vulnerable to facists”.

She would know all about that. Bernie was killing Trump in the polls. Hilary was neck and neck with Trump.

The DNC cast their votes for who was going to General. A winner was announced. Everyone started to go to the announcement and for the only time in DNC history, the announcement was rescinded and everyone was broken up into different groups. Hilary staffers were observed scurrying around between groups. Then everyone was forced to vote again. THEN Hilary was declared the candidate going to General.

It was all live tweeted. It was all loudly publicized, but noone seemed to notice. Noone seemed to care.

Of course she is now going to make a historically inaccurate statement that casts actual democracy in a bad light.

That hag needs to stay under her rock.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, there was a court case...

DNC's lawyers used the legal defense that they're a private party and can run anyone they want in the general, and because of that, it doesn't matter if they influence a primary election.

They flat out said primary elections are just a performative act, and the judge agreed with them.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Which is correct if you look at the history of how primaries came to be. Parties simply nominating someone is exactly what used to happen. The first Presidential primaries started in 1901, and they still don't even happen in every state. Plenty still use the caucus system, where a bunch of insiders (usually local people who have volunteered for the party in some capacity) take off a day from work to decide on a candidate. The caucus system has historically been far more susceptible tampering by powerful interests. It literally was a smoke filled room, and is where that metaphor started.

Primaries aren't some system enshrined in the Constitution or anything. It's just how both parties have evolved over time. The general population gets its say in the election later on. The system now is far more democratic than the one that existed 200 years ago (with the caveat that we don't have to stop with progress here).

Obama would never have gotten the nomination in 2008 if the caucus system was still the norm. The leaders of the party wanted Hillary.

That said, I think this approach would work better if there were more than two viable parties. If you don't like who the Democrats nominated, look the Green Party or Progressives Party or Send Billionaires to Guillotines Party. If they all put a candidate out there selected by party insiders, that's fine, just vote in the general for whomever you think is the best out of a wide range of options. It's far harder for corrupt party insiders to game the system in this scenario--for example, it'd be harder to have a place in all parties and setup the candidates you want so you win no matter what. It's only a problem because we have exactly two parties that matter. Treating multiple parties as private organizations who can nominate whomever they want under any system they want would be fine.

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[–] Pixlbabble@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Middle Finger

[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago

BACK TO THE FORESTS WITH YOU YOU FUCKING GHOUL

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