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I'm not sure how accurate StatCounter is, given that most Linux users use adblockers. However, according to it, Linux has almost a 14% desktop share in India.

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[–] velox_vulnus@lemmy.ml 122 points 1 year ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (28 children)
[–] fedcon@lemm.ee 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

C is for Cognizant btw. But Cisco wouldn't be too far off.

It's a desi-fied version of WITCH, for those familiar with that term.

[–] velox_vulnus@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 10 months ago)
[–] worldofgeese@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Come over to team Guix System, we have cookies 🍪

[–] velox_vulnus@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)
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[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

We use TCS and Accenture at my work and I'm aware of us using Cognizant and HCL as well. You're bang on fuck all those companies and also "first world" compankes for fucking the local employment market and fucking overseas workers.

Race to the bottom. Nothing matters but the bottom line.

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[–] NateNate60@lemmy.ml 104 points 1 year ago (7 children)

That's because even a grey market Windows key costs US$20 nowadays and that's over ₹1,600. For comparison purposes, the largest Indian banknote is ₹500.

[–] stepanzak@iusearchlinux.fyi 36 points 1 year ago (6 children)
[–] NateNate60@lemmy.ml 55 points 1 year ago (10 children)

...but not legal. Being poor doesn't necessarily mean you're inclined to break the law. Besides, Linux is useful if you perhaps want to later get a job in the tech field.

[–] d3Xt3r@lemmy.nz 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You're not breaking the law, you're breaking a software license agreement. That does not automatically make it a crime, at least, that would depend on your exact local laws, and the lawyer's interpretation of it - in many cases the actual wording around this is ambiguous and could be argued both ways. A better term for it would be a "legal grey area", which means if you're a company then don't f*** around with it, and if you're just a random user then no one gives a f***.

In any case, if those scripts were truly illegal, then the Microsoft-owned Github wouldn't host them in the first place. Clearly Microsoft themselves don't have an issue with it, so why should anyone else care about it?

[–] NateNate60@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yes, you are breaking a law. Copyright infringement in this manner is an offence under the Copyright Act 1957 punishable with up to three years imprisonment and a fine.

[–] Helix@feddit.de 12 points 1 year ago (6 children)

In my country there is no copyright act of 1957.

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[–] d3Xt3r@lemmy.nz 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

But you're not infringing on any copyright. You're downloading a copy of Windows directly from Microsoft legally, and then activating it using a free and open-source script hosted on Microsoft's own servers. You aren't breaking any copyright law in doing that.

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[–] reinar@distress.digital 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

resold oem key is not legal as well.

only legal options are: get windows with your device or purchase retail for a hunnit $.

just accept it and pirate.

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[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

why go through the trouble when linux is free?

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[–] randompepsi@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Do you have to pay for Windows still? I thought they made it free to download

[–] nous@programming.dev 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

While it is free to download it, the license still costs. Though they seem to let you use it unlicensed for an unlimited amount of time with some restrictions (like not being able to change the background image and an ever present watermark). At least this was true for windows 10. No telling if/when they will drop that feature though, especially if loads of people start using it unlicensed like that (though I doubt that has any effect on people using it that way or not).

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[–] elouboub@kbin.social 63 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Hopefully people in India are spreading the world of Linux. Blessed they be.

[–] riskable@programming.dev 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I hear even the cows run Linux. They only peer into Windows from time to time.

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[–] whitecapstromgard@sh.itjust.works 43 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Is that why India has the best programmers?

[–] WuTang@lemmy.ninja 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

nope. that's why India has a lot of sweatshops and our assholes of western managers exploit them.

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[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 35 points 1 year ago (16 children)

It's a little puzzling to me that Linux isn't popular in low-income countries. Why wouldn't it be the OS of choice there? Do we need to become linux missionaries? I imagine it would be easier to convince people who can't buy an iPhone to use FLOSS than those who can drive to an Apple Store and waddle over to get yet another one.

[–] drathvedro@lemm.ee 30 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Probably because it has to compete with piracy there, not with Microsoft and Adobe and such.

[–] halva@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 1 year ago

ironically enough i think microsoft (at least until very recently) has had a very lenient stance on piracy exactly because of this

piracy is the key to the consumer market in developing countries, consumer market is the key to enterprise (where the actual money lies)

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[–] victron@programming.dev 22 points 1 year ago

Puzzling? Windows comes preinstalled or can be pirated. Also, it's popular, Linux isn't. No puzzle on sight.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago

Same as any other country, people use what’s preinstalled

However following that trend Chrome OS and Android have really boosted Linux’s numbers

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[–] Timely_Jellyfish_2077@programming.dev 29 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Also have no idea why Windows share dropped so low in April 2023. Perhaps some Windows update caused them to be recognized as unknown device

[–] chevy9294@monero.town 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I read somewhere that was caused by linux-based botnet ddos or something like that. So windows share didnt drop but linux share significantly increased.

[–] taaz@biglemmowski.win 8 points 1 year ago

Maybe something with the hwid activation?

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[–] mojo@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago

Say the line bart!

This will be the year of the Linux desktop

[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I find the concept of 'market share' applied to FOSS projects quite confusing.

[–] Timely_Jellyfish_2077@programming.dev 18 points 1 year ago (5 children)

What's confusing to you? If Linux has higher desktop use, wouldn't it bring more and better quality apps and games.

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[–] A10@kerala.party 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I am contributing to this number by installing Ubuntu Linux on my relatives old laptops.

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[–] snek_boi@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I'm not sure adblockers change the OS they report. Other tools I know for a fact do it.

Edit: However, as @aebletrae@hexbear.net mentions, adblockers don't have to change what OS is reported to change the overall statistics. They explain how in a comment below.

[–] aebletrae@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think the assumption is not that adblockers alter the user agent info, but that they also block other resources, so StatCounter won't see those users at all, leading to under-reporting.

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[–] RandomVideos@programming.dev 10 points 1 year ago

A lot of people are comparing windows to linux, but windows worldwide has only about 70% market share.

There are way less mac os and chrome os users than worldwide

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 year ago

Content management doesn't affect usage numbers. I think it has to more with user agent switching

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